August 24, 2020

Free Talk: Skip Beat 285


So, apparently, Yashiro met with Ren that day and he had already noticed the missing necklace. He just put two and two together to figure out what happened and that is also thanks to Ren’s especially good mood that day.
Interestingly, Yashiro is keeping his cool and everything instead of having some overly joyous reaction that I would expect since something big happened between the two. Since he stalks fan sites, he immediately made a back-up plan for this kind of scenario.

I guess Lory doesn’t have to be involved in asking for the prototype of the necklace. I’m just imagining that Yashiro went to the company and asked for it. They probably gladly give it after all, they got a lot of business from Ren who’ll always wear something that they’ve made. Haha, I assume that people knew the company where it is made.

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I don’t quite understand the change of the watch brand though. Did I miss that part? Who is the close male relative? ^^; Anyway, we found out the reason why they aren’t nipping the rumor from its bud. Yashiro is going to also use Kana to hide Kyouko’s identity as Ren’s love interest.

From what was implied, I guess the fans are the vicious jealous type who would probably tear down the girl whom they don’t think fit/is a match with their idol. It would be quite problematic since Kyouko is just starting her career. Hm...is this the other reason why the author decided not to make their relationship official?

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Based on Tina’s reaction about Rick being angry at her and Rick is thinking she’s heartless, I think she has a change of heart regarding Kuon’s role that night. Probably felt guilty that Kuon disappeared after that day and she probably knew how important Rick was to Kuon that he doesn't want that to happen to him.

I wonder though who is the ‘there’s one other person who was soft when it comes to her’? Was it Kuon? Why did she tell the man to forget it when asked but in the end, she mentioned Kuon’s name? Unless it is like what Yashiro did earlier hinting on some girl and later revealing that it is Kyouko.

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When Tina slightly blush at the man who offered his hand, I wondered if she had moved on. Perhaps, she would know want some sort of closure and is trying to find where Kuon is. On a side note, I did think though that she should have removed her high heeled shoes before heading down that rocky terrain. ^^;

If she does want some closure, I guess there would be less drama when she meets up with Kuon. Though, the drama might be more on facing the bully who might be Cedric. Somehow if Ren goes to the US and it is covered by media, those who know Kuon would recognize him. And, I wonder what would be the reason for Kyouko to go the US since almost all of the main characters are going there.

As for the author’s note, since that isn’t the day that Rick died and it is supposed to be not really important, based on stories I’ve read and watched...for someone to visit the grave of a deceased lover with the opposite sex...that is like, introduction of the new lover. ^^

22 comments:

  1. I wonder about new love, since she is still wearing the watch that matches Rick's watch. I wonder if she wants to first sort things out with Kuon before making it official with the new guy that she is developing feelings for. The look on her face showed a lot of guilt, which I assume is because of what she told Kuon.

    About the watch, I am assuming Ren got it at a later point after he moved to Japan. I wonder if his father got the watch from Tina and sent it to Ren through the president.

    No wonder Yashiro was assigned to Ren, he is probably the best manager they have at the agency and thats why Rory also asked him to take care of Kyoko.

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    1. Ah, it was a pair watch with Rick. I was wondering if there's an importance to it since it was focused on. Hm...I actually don't know how it is with that. I mean, do one usually wear that kind of object when one is with one's new lover? Basically, does one throw away all the objects from the deceased lover when one finds a new one? Probably not to make the new one insecure?

      I see. I actually got confused since I thought it was the same all throughout. I don't think the father and Tina are in contact with each other because Tina doesn't seem to know where Kuon is.

      Yup ^^

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    2. Well the watch is a memento. It would not be unusual for her to keep wearing it. I don't think Tina will be able to completely move on until she faces Kuon.
      There is probably a contact between Tina and Ren's dad but then again he would not say anything about where he is or what he is doing. He could only say what everyone else is thinking. I am assuming there is a cover story for his disappearance in the states.
      I am currently re-reading the story again but this time I am reading my hard copy collection since I want to read sensei's notes on the sidebars. If I see any mention about the watch or Ren's past I will let you know. There are some differences between the books and the magazine translations that I have been reading

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    3. True.

      Ah, like the story that they would tell others regarding Kuon? I'm curious what it is.

      Thanks.

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  2. as for yashiro he is really efficient and i guess he did figure out where the pendant is but obviously doesn't know the exact details except that both are on good terms now and i love how yashiro keeps on saying ren's happiness is based on small things/developments lol he said the same back in dark moon filming, It would've been nice if we could see an overly joyous yashiro but A) I don't think he knows how much progress happened the day before and B) he had to avoid a disaster with the fans first.

    For the fans i guess i do sometimes blame the celebrities too because they sell a certain image and i think they are ok with kana because she is also famous and have a good image while kyouko is still unknown and most people wouldn't be able to link her to her roles so I could see some of the intense fans being mad with her and even stalking her or going further, as for the watch ren normally wears it on right hand (which is not usual for a right handed person) and i guess its his way to remember rick yet recently after the guam arc he did switch to the left hand as a sign to forgiving himself (althoguh i'm not 100% sure he does it all the time) so what yashir is trying to say is that the fans did notice this small change and moreover since ren generall prefers some more luxurious brand (when it comes to clothes and accessories i assume r-mandi they called it which i guess is armani ) ren wearing something from a lesser known brand for along time made the fans believe it's a gift from an older male relative (which is not correct since rick is an older male friend but the fans were so close in their guess which makes it scary), i'm glad if tina is finally trying to move on and i think on both occasions she is talking about koun also the guy with her seems to know rick so maybe he was there for her in the last 5 years, I think the final part about death anniversary is maybe in a way to show us readers that Ren isn't being insensitive by having such a good time on rick's death anniversary which is not the case because it is not the anniversary

    emmahoshi

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    1. True, emmahoshi. I guess we'll only get to see that when it becomes official.

      Ya, and currently, Kyouko only has 'bad girl' roles.

      I see. I remember the switching of the watch from one hand to another. What I don't recall is the change of watch brand. When did that happen? So during that part, he also changed his watch with Rick's? Or, when he was doing Cain Heel?

      Most likely.

      Ah, that's a good point.

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    2. indeed it doesn't help that all she gets is a bad girl role which some people are not a fan of
      for the watch (this is just from my understanding) he never changed it I think maybe sometimes during photo shoot or a role he would take the watch and pendant off and wear something else (sponsored i assume)but he never replaced rick's watch and he had it for a longtime , it's just that fans have noticed that for most of his wardrobe and accessories he goes with expensive stuff (for tsurga ren image) yet this watch is both from a non-popular brand and old hence they thought it should be a personal item , because when you think about it the fans didn't say the pendant is a gift and assumed it to be more associated with his image or a trademark for tsurga ren
      so overall it's a crazy scary situation where he should be more careful and i assume yashiro has been covering for him a lot so far but more eyes will be on him specially with kana and maybe paparazzi will try and get a scope

      emmahoshi

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    3. I see. Thanks for the explanation. ^^

      True.

      You know, with the introduction of fans in the series, I suddenly wondered how they will react if they knew of Ren's true identity. Will it be positive like, oh, it turns out that he is that kid actor in this series/movie? Haha, I'm assuming that he had that exposure. Or, he 'lied' about his identity? Rather, 'Ren Tsuraga' doesn't really exist.

      Also, with the appearance of Tina, I'm starting to wonder if Kyouko will know about his true identity first or she'll hear it from someone else. Haha, like Ren is about to tell Kyouko then Tina arrives and calls him Kuon. And, we got a 'see you in the next chapter'. 😋

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    4. I think most fans are used to celebrities having stage names (although these celebrities also do disclose their real names) but i don't think it's a big deal specially later on he would say that he didn't want his dad's popularity to give him a favorable head start as a new actor and wanted to do things fair and square which i'm sure will make the fans happy so i wouldn't worry about that, of course if he has attended a school in japan it would've been easier to leak his real identity and since people who knew him are mostly in the US then he is safe which makes the arrival/involvement of cedric (who most probably bullied him as a child /early teen a bit of a headache).
      I doubt tina would come for a while unless she stumbled upon a Japanese drama by an accident and seen him and even then it will be hard to believe that he is the same person specially with him having different eye color (people are used to dyed hair but not different eye colors)
      I do hope kyoko finds out from him and not a third party because that will complicate things but i still thing the biggest problem isn't that he is kuu's son but that he is corn since she talked about corn with ren alot and it will look like he was playing around with her (discussing corn as if he is not corn) i bet that would makes her more angrier than koun since for a while now she figured ren is a stage name but dares not to ask about the real one
      so many things to look forward to
      emmahoshi

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    5. True, though I'm thinking more of the persona that he is showing to the fans = fake/an act. Haha, though there are celebrities who are like that and I'm under the assumption that it can be a turn off if the real side turned out to be not what one imagined/thought to be. Anyway, it's just a random thing which I somewhat doubt the author will dwell into.

      Hehe, I'm actually thinking that is when or somewhat they're in the US instead. ^^; Tina going to Japan is a bit farfetched right now. Hm...but what about the way he moves, talks, voice, height, and other features other than hair and eye color?

      True. So, you think Kuon secret will be out first before Corn identity?

      Yup ^^

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    6. no I do completely understand that point since people start to believe the image to be the true self of the celebrity and to be honest although koun did a lot of questionable things in the past he still does have a lot of ren's qualities it's just that the darkness took over him for a couple of years as a teen so even if things were revealed i still don't think he was lying about his character, still i think it is best if not every aspect of his life becomes public (him being koun = kuu's son and that's it the other details i think it is best if only people close to him knew about it).
      but she saw him last when he was 15 i think he did change from that time and who would think he would go to japan i mean you would normally assume he is in a different state in the US, either way indeed i think when he goes to the US that meeting will happen
      hmm I think corn since that secret is more shocking to kyoko rather than koun of course both could be revealed at the same time but "corn" is really not of interest to most people since they don't know him.
      emmahoshi

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    7. I see. Hm...I guess it is indeed likely that will happen. I was thinking that if that is so, and if Cedric is the bully, that would mean that it would also be resolved out from the public eye. It would most likely be like how things are dealt with Kyouko's 'ex-bullies'.

      Hehe, is that so. Do features change that much? I guess it would depend if he has the genes of 'don't seem to age' like some Asian actors.

      True. Oh well, hopefully, when it happens, it would turn out amazing...as our reward after years of waiting ^^

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  3. I don't think Yashiro is wrong about it being small since its like its something but then again its nothing....
    I thought he switched it during Dark Moon, around the time of accident when he picked Kyoko over Rick and decided to try and move on.
    Was there ever a mention of when Rick passed away? Damn now I need to reread it again, and I finished re-reading a few months ago >.<

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    1. El4n1, the only time I recall about something regarding the watch is during the Heel siblings arc.

      I don't think it was mentioned. But then, isn't it assumed to be immediately before he came back to Japan again as Ren?

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    2. Well he did choose Kyoko after the accident, when he had the watch in front of him and was thinking after the shock of the accident. At that time they had already started the Hill siblings play as well.

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    3. Ah, I see. So, he started to wear that watch when he started doing BJ?

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    4. Well the first time someone actually mentioned it is when they are in Guam after the kiss. Ten notices it (chapter 212) so maybe he switches it when wears it after he leaves Kyoko (in the woods), he does apologize to Rick when he is wearing the watch on his left hand. and he asks for a favor from him.

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  4. As an American, we might visit graves on special occasions, but we are just as likely to visit a grave of someone we were close to just because we feel like it. And we don't have a tradition of visiting on death anniversaries, at least not as a culture. Certainly people do often go sometime near the death anniversary of a close friend or family member, at least at first. I felt like maybe it was just a cultural note pointing out that the traditions around grave visits aren't quite the same in the US, and that Ren isn't thinking about Rick's death anniversary at this time in the story.

    It's also funny that Rick is short for Eric. I've never heard of any Eric being called Rick as a nickname. It's usually short for Richard. Then again, people sometimes have non-traditional (weird) nicknames. The nickname for Christopher is usually Chris, but I knew a guy in high school who was a Christopher and he went by Topher instead. :D

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    1. Ah, I see, Tohru13.

      True. In our place, the nickname for Richard is usually Dick. ^^;

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  5. Thank you Kat for all your updates! I've been reading your summaries since strobe edge, VB Rose.. maybe longer! I have an opinion about recent skip beat and would like to know other thoughts. Anyone else think things are now being rushed? Comparing it to driving a car, we were at cruising speed 30-35. Now it's like we are at 55-60. I'm happy with the progress but it just doesn't flow with the past part of the story.

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    1. Thanks for reading and support ^^

      In a way, yes though before, it seems to be slower than usual = almost nothing happens in a chapter. ^^;

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