May 9, 2019

Comments for Namaikizakari 99 - 100

[Edit: In order to avoid further misunderstanding, let me clarify that I'm not continuing to post/comment about this series for any bad intention. The purpose is to continue to talk about the series with readers who are still interested in talking about it with me. Those who want to post or rave something about the series are always welcome.

Also, the previous post's comments are already full so it is really hard to read and answer. Hence, I have opened a new post. That is all there is to it. And, from now on, I'll be posting my short description for the chapter/s after the jump break in consideration to those who don't want to accidentally read them.]

99 - Fangirls discover the secret haven of hot guys in Osaki basketball gym with an info dump on who's who in the club + Yuki's realization about herself.

100 -  Finally, Shou is in + doggie problem + action > words

250 comments:

  1. You've said before how nonchalent you were getting towards this series, but your succint summary of this chapter is really catastrophic: It cracks me up! 🀣 Lol, hehehe

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  2. Yes this chapter(exception for yuki realization about herself, whith help of Naruse)it's nothing

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    1. Yeah she didn't mention Naruse's help. Professionalism at its finest. (Like always tho)

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    2. Natalie, it isn't a summary. I'm just briefly mentioning what happened. It isn't intentional that I didn't mention what Shou did/contribution, etc. I'm keeping it short like in the previous comments before. Apparently, because of my impression on the series, very small things like that can make you think something else about it.

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  3. How sad. I thought of saying that in the previous section but I stopped myself. This is really not nice, to ruin people's happiness like that. I don't know why you are making a post then? If it's about the commentators, then I don't think one can share Their love under such humiliating. Why are you even commenting guys? Please stop. Really not nice to be that unconsiderate. It's Like the chapters are nothing so there's not even what to say! Aw, god. There are people who love it, enjoy it, don't want it to end, and that is super sad so. I appreciate it, I appreciate every little part, from this chapter and the previous. I never once thought you'd write such comments, and answer some with that way. Even everything I saw people came and commente lately, how sad. I was happy with the chapter, really but you just ruined my happiness. I wanted to comment and I was so excited, just like the previous chap then I got shocked,, really frustrating. How can you even expect people to comment when you put it like that! Again, I never thought you'd be once like that. The chapters don't deserve that. And people were commenting here and enjoy, no one made a problem with your comments like how you mentioned, if I'm wrong, did you guys do that? Cause I never see such. If you don't want to do something say so, don't put the blame on others. ,, It's such a unique masterpiece and amazing couple. I'll always eagerly follow them. You Doing that lately won't help anything. Maybe help you for some reasons. At least consider people's feelings. I never thought you have such soul to be honest. That really made me deep sad,, cause it just means a lot to me. The chapter was amazing, emotional and so beautiful, when one dislike something would see everything bad about about it, and vise versa. and now ppl with sick souls would also come and puff their toxicity. Again, I never thought you are like that, that kind of person.

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    1. Everyone has their opinion. I do not think someone wants hurt another person sensibility for say their thoughts pacefull.
      Kat has always post summary and runnig the blog with Effort and for Free and so we are to be thankful to her for that Personally I really love namaikizakari Narsuse and yuki; I enjoy every moment together, but this chapter (exception for the last couple of page) for me is nothing.

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    2. Liana, yeah it make me sad and shocked as well. I feel you, especially how people are making fun of you. People always belittle others interests.
      Nicole.

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    3. Sorry about that, Liana if I don't view the couple/series as you do...rather, it isn't in the same intensity as you do.

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    4. Nicole, not liking something in the same intensity as another person doesn't mean that 1.'people are making fun of you' and 2. 'belittling others'.

      Let's say, I don't like eggplant. I write a post about not liking it. Then, all of a sudden, I'm making fun of and belittling people who like eggplants. Is that what you think?

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    7. maika sama, that (Yuki's realization + Shou's help) isn't nothing, it is beautiful and meaningful. it is a chapter.
      There were chapters like that, and in every manga there are chapters like that, not every chapter should be a very interesting one. what happening here is such a shame.
      And she is not specifically talking about that chapter, in chapter 95, 96, 97 they were so progressive, she said 'are we going to continue like that with the couple lovey-dovey' see! Means it's boring, and that indeed belittling to the people who still enjoy them. Anyone would get hurt if someone tell them the manga or something they like is boring and should end already. Agh. There are manga here that I found boring, and as well chapters, but I never went and said it's nothing or anything bad. This is indeed insensitive. And just cause she opened the filed for that. I'm so surprised of what happening.

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    8. @Liana , if you re-read my previus comment , i have never never say that the moment of yuki and shou
      at the end of the chapter is nothing

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    9. Liana, where did I say, 'are we going to continue like that with the couple lovey-dovey?'

      The description there was for chapter 95. I only mentioned that I'm not feeling the love and observing the familiar pattern on how things are being done. That's my opinion and current feeling. Will it change...perhaps...or else, why would I still read this series? I'm hoping that I would feel it again like before.

      Please don't jump into conclusion and imply things that I do not mean. Just because I don't feel the same as most of you do, it doesn't mean I'm belittling it and it should end already.

      I don't want it to end yet. I want to see the ex-gf, maybe pair her up with Shizuka, I want to see them accomplish their dream to win the Nationals, maybe see Shou's father...

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    10. Okay, sorry. I got carried away.

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    11. It's okay. ^^ I hope I had properly clarified things.

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  4. Lol, y'all calm down. This is her blog, if she wants to delete our comments or everything else, she can, it's her right and more importantly, this manga is available at mangarock translated as well, so she has no need to do it. If you have been following this particular manga in here, you'd notice she said something similar to it not being as stimulating to her. Yeah,I guess unlike mangarock, here you could chat about it with other followers as well but in the end it's her blog, so... let's respect that, i'm sure she didn't mean it in a bad away, we shouldn't be forced to do something that doesn't inspire us much, you know.

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    1. Indeed, Kena.

      I still talk with other readers who still want to talk about it with me. That's the purpose of continuing this free talk. If there's no more conversations, then, I'll let this die a natural death.

      And you're right, there is no bad intention for keeping on posting about it.

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    3. Kena, I said nothing about summaries. I know since the English trans caught up she isn't doing them anymore. it's just natural. So what you said is basically nothing. And I didn't talk about her intensity of the series but that sudden declarations. I didn't use to it here for people to say their bad thoughts about series like that. I appreciate her comments (without the summary) be it long or small. And I like discussing about it with her. (With a summary or not) I just got upset for her saying indirectly it's boring

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  5. I like how Shou protected his Yuki, hehe, I can't help but think they are too adorable ❤️

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    1. Ya, it's nice, Emi. I wonder what's the girls are screaming for...because he talked to them or because he is protecting Yuki. ^^;

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    2. Oh about that, why do I feel like they actually misunderstood that there is something between Shou and Hakamada? Lol. He also made it sound like that somehow. But don't they know that Shou and Yuki are dating?

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    3. Lol That would be funny though if that was it. ^^

      I get the impression that they don't because isn't it awkward to ask some girl who has a bf about another guy? Unless they're desperate. Anyway, it seems that they aren't from their school.

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    4. Haha, yes

      Well, they asked her because she is the manager of the club. As they mentioned. :) I see. cause Shou made that public declaration, and it mentioned again, so I thought maybe :)

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    5. Yes...though I assumed that they were recent stalkers who visited the gym. Then, they learned that she is the manager = knows everything about the members = let's go ask her.

      I'm thinking they're from another school since the fangirls came after seeing Shizuka's pic in the net, iirc. If they were in the same school, they should already know about these guys, right?

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    6. yepp!

      Oh yes, I didn't pay attention that they're from another school until you told me. :D so yes I think so.

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  6. The scene where Yuki conveyed her feelings to Shou, Honestly is so wonderful! And Shou how responded to
    is very wonderful!!

    Also I really like the scene where he kneeled down to her,,, I like his attitude and expression .. it felt really nice ❤️

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    1. Indeed, Maggi. Hopefully, they do that more so that they'll understand what each other is feeling and thinking ^^

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    2. Yes you're right, I hope we'll see more talk scenes of them. Yuki is doing good now, she didn't hesitate and casually told him her worries. And Shou is also doing well somehow in sharing his problems with her lately. they have a strong personality where they don't ask for her help, don't show their weak side, etc. I actually really admire that on them, but it's necessary and nice when they learn to share and change for the better for their sake. :)❤️

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  7. When Shou kneeled down like that, at first i thought he would "ask for her hand" in marriage. Haha. I'm the only one?
    Well either it's so cute what he said and his face toward her.

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    1. in facebook group i have write the same thing

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    2. Haha, is that so.

      It's too bad that the others interrupt when Yuki is going to say something really nice. I want to see his reaction.

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    3. Oh yeppp!! GAHHH I WAS SO EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT SHE WAS GONNA SAY AFTER THAT !!! :( yess he'd probably have had a priceless face like always :((

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  8. Kat, kuro ch. 56 is out now.
    https://m.duzhez.com/manhua/3579/731920.html

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    1. Realmente maravilloso ooo, estoy esperando con ansias la traducción, estoy que me mueroooooooo, kuro esta de los pelos de puntas igual que un gato 🀭🀭🀭🀭

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  9. I don’t know if its just me, but i find Usami and Suwa’s relationship kinda superficial. Like they look like an attractive couple with no depth.

    Well Yuki and Shou were Soo Cute. also do you think yuki will mention that she got a bit worried if naruse would attraction too much attention? because he being jealous is SO CUTE.

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    1. In a way, yes, Claraa. Though, to deepen their relationship, it might require more chapters dedicated to them.

      Good question. For now, I don't think so since she is inclined to be 'very understanding'. She'll probably think fangirls is part of the territory for a basketball player. Hm...I'm thinking that Shou would be quite happy if she admits it though.

      =)

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    2. Yes.

      yeahh she’s only shown her jealousy like once(?) It two and it was so cuteee.

      omg i really wanted to know what she was gonna say but she keeps getting disrupted >:/

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    3. Ya. She's very understanding but then, thinking about it now, since she is becoming more 'emotional', does that mean, she'll have more jealous reactions? In a way, that might be good since she'll start to realize like, what if Shou knows that Shizuka is doing this and that to me...I should stop that.

      And, if ever we want to see her really jealous and insecure, that would be the ex-gf and not some random girl/fangirl.

      Ya.

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    4. Oh exactly. especially that Shou made that question. So I got some impression. And that's why I asked you that in my original comment. Oh, yup, she'll understand how it feels, and then consider Shou's feeling more, and be less dense.

      Yup exactly, I thought so too.

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    5. but those fangirls backed away after Shou stepped in, which i found really surprising, lol. i thought that the fangirls would be more persistant like those in high school actually.

      Those fangirls thought Shou and hakamada’s relationship was hot and they probably misinterpreted it, omg! :O

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    6. Haha, I see. Well, they could be 'starstruck' with Shou and don't want to create a bad impression.

      Hehe...after all, it is a usual 'joke/cliche' when two people are always bickering, they are like lovers/best friends, etc.

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  10. Naruse-yuki-Hakamada love triangle is non existent. I don't buy it, it's too weak. At least for me, I feel like something should happen to Hakamada already to take him out of the picture.

    I keep coming back for Naruse and Yuki's development though. I'll stick around until they grow old and have children. 😊

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    1. Yup, Viana. Quite unlikely though...they need him for their winning the Nationals dream.

      =)

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    2. I mean love side.

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  11. Haha this story is so full of moments where they are talking about something really cute.. and then interrupted! It gets under my skin sometimes πŸ˜‘
    But its also what makes the moments where they are talking alone.. that much better! 😏

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    1. Haha, true. It's like how many times the door opens/someone is about to come in when they are about to do it. =P

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    2. Haha, true. But it's cute too, like, the idea of contrast, you cant know happiness without one point of feeling sad. its the same, the more they are interrupted, the more meaningful the moments they have a lone. Haha.

      I'm a guy BTW! Haha.

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    3. Haha...like those are just 'teasing' then they go all out when it finally happens? =P

      Ah, I see. This manga seems to be popular with guys, too.

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    4. Yup. like life will make the second time better for you. here it's the author, she always makes it/they usually have the moment after the interrupted one more cuter, right? Like when the triplets bothered them, then it ended up with Yuki making a so unexpected honest confession to Shou, that ended up much sweeter and natural between them. :D

      Haha, yess, there are a lot guys who read it. I and lots of my friends are too much into the couple!

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    5. Yup ^^ So maybe later on...regarding this one, she'll tell him later on ^^

      =)

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    6. Yes! or maybe a better one, haha. I saw one spoiler of chapter 100 and Yuki did so much better, Haha. told you (^^)

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    7. Author always make it up for them, haha.

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  12. Haha, Shou's long legs is to grab Yuki, lol. That moment was So cute! excited for full colour in the next chapter! :3

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    1. Hehe...

      Yup, and what do you hope it is? Couple pic or group pic?

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    2. To be honest I want it a Couple pic, hehe. maybe a spring or summer special? Or a cute one with both of them having another matching outfit or another ring cover. ♡:3

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    3. I see. That will be nice ^^

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  13. Hmm. You know, even the light ‘team fandom’ story arc could shift gears into something a bit more serious.

    I watched a French and Saunders sketch once where exactly that happened. The comedian ladies went to the set of Poldark (the recent series) and were shamelessly drooling over the male lead actor, Aidan Whatsit. Then the actress who plays his wife came over and gave French and Saunders a BRUTAL dressing down for being ‘lechers’ and talking about the man like he’s a piece of meat!
    (Wow, mood whiplash!)

    There seems to be potential for some darker humor like that, or some sort of twist. The storyline with Shouji and his ex started off quite light and comic, too – and she started off as his fangirl – but it turned into a disappointment in love.

    It’s far from certain there will be such a development, even mostly concerning side characters as before, but I have been surprised by those sorts of developments before – and now I am alert! At a minimum, the writer has laid some groundwork (the info dump) in this chapter, which opens possibilities.

    To clarify my position, while I understand that tastes vary, no problema (completely absent in you, Kat, and fairly rare generally is the arrogant variant where people want to be self-appointed ‘arbiters of taste’ and dictate to others), personally I am very fond of this manga, uncritically fond, and quite comfortable with the pacing recently.
    I wonder if it could be a sign of the times? Maybe its sales are so high because there are a lot of people like me – who are not in the mood for drama lately and love a manga with ‘low stress’ story arcs? If so, have to give the mangaka credit for reading the market right (^_-)

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    1. Oh, same, I don't like drama or stress stories. I'm quite comfortable with the recent chapters. Hope it'll continue like that. Like before though, and cause of that this has been always my favorite manga. :) and yup the sales and ratings are doing so very well with these recent chapters. :)

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    2. True, Zozo. I think it is indeed for some variety. Like in very serious stories, sometimes they throw in some comedic moments.

      Regarding that, I feel that Shouji will still end up with his ex. Or, might be related if Shou's ex appears. It was that 'do you really like me'?

      True...perhaps, it is important because I feel that the focus will go back to basketball so we need to know the team member's names like how it was in high school.

      Possible ^^

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    3. Well, for me my preference depends on my mood, which changes. I don’t like drama for drama’s sake, but I’m pleased when manga cover depressing topics that interest me – and cover them honestly. If it's realistic, I can handle a bit of tragedy now and then; what irritates me is actually the direct opposite: comedies and romances when they treat heavy material lightly (most often, have characters forgiven when they don’t deserve forgiveness).
      It’s very stressful being drip-fed drama, though. I way preferred when the 3gatsu no Lion translators released the entire VOLUME with the drama over the deadbeat dad returning like a supervillain, as opposed to waiting and waiting for the next chapter of Skip Beat’s ‘why the heroine’s mother never loved her’ arc.
      That was agonizing. Thought-provoking, but agonizing.

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    4. True. I agree with this 'comedies and romances when they treat heavy material lightly (most often, have characters forgiven when they don’t deserve forgiveness).' especially if the forgiveness happens so quickly. It isn't realistic...not even angry which is usually the first thing to feel.

      Haha, true. It was always advised before to read Skip Beat by volumes rather than by chapters. That is if one can patiently wait that long.

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    5. Heh, heh, it’s a “snap”, Kat! (Both posting at 10:17 earlier.)

      Regarding your earlier comment, I don’t personally find Namaizakari so uniformly light and comedic, because I think Yuki was parentified – and now is recovering from that and learning intra- and interpersonal skills beyond caretaking – and I *heavily* disapprove of parentification. (It comes from being a small family, but having big families held up to me as role models. I didn’t agree with that, and I became very critical when normally a person in my nuclear family size would not know or care much about big families.)
      Probably *everyone* else feels differently, likely including the writer! But… for me, the darker notes match my feelings about the backstory. The exact timing can be a surprise, but they’re never out of place.

      If Shouji had a reunion romance with his ex, I guess that would echo the central couple’s romance a bit more. Is that why you expect it? And/or is it the normal pattern with manga?
      I heard writers sometimes change their plans if the current/alternative partner is more popular with readers – but does that apply with side characters as well as main?
      Maybe it’s because I’m scarred from the ex in Momoiro Heaven, whom (iirc) the readers HATED so much the manga got the chop, (well, she did turn into a scary suicidal stalker) but I really don’t want to get emotionally invested in Shouji’s ex. I had forgotten what she said when they split up. I was cross-referencing what Shou/Naruse said about that random mid-teen couple he and Yuki saw when they were shopping, the ‘how long can they keep that up?’ He may have meant the silly banter about stupid products for sale the random couple were engaged in, not the high-school relationship itself. But it looks like Shouji and his ex also didn’t communicate so well about the important things…

      Ah, I see. I was thinking the focus would be on their social life rather than proto-professional life, but there are more options than I thought of once we know more of the basketballers’ names.

      Re too easily forgiven villainy. Good to meet with agreement :)
      Hmm…My first response is ‘freeze’ to verbal attack, ‘flight’ to being physically targeted, and ‘fight’ (anger) is my last resort. The greater the danger, the more extreme my response.
      I don’t want to use myself as a model too much – lazy of me – but I wonder whether Yuki needs self-defense classes to readjust her danger radar and kickstart her ‘flight’ and ‘fight’ responses towards people she doesn’t trust like Shou, and is not so demonstrative/express with.

      That makes SO much sense, but I was a newbie at the time, I didn’t know. (And did that arc even end up fitting into just one volume of Skip Beat?) Still, I loved talking the developments over with you ^^

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    6. I totally agree with you in the part that kat selected. Happy there are people that see it like me, cause I thought I'm the weird one. :P

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    7. Yup, Zozo ^^

      I guess it does depend on one's circumstance. For me, it is somewhat not serious especially given the childish antics of her siblings. Something like a manzai comedic act wherein there is a serious one and a comedic one. I guess it is also because it isn't tackled like what you have mentioned... 'is parentification' okay?

      Well, regarding Shouji, it is more like, the ex doesn't really hate him. Perhaps, it is because something made her think that she doesn't love him as she does. It made me remember Shou's ex who was asking similarily thing before they broke up -- 'you're okay without me'.

      I'm thinking that since it is similar, maybe Shou will play cupid again and help resolve the misunderstanding. I'm not sure if the ex will appear but I'm thinking of a possible scenario wherein, Yuki would learn that the ex still love Shou then...perhaps like Shouji's ex. Maybe a bit of jealousy...after all, the ex is the first gf though I'm sure Yuki is his first love.

      I think that happens...in the end, somehow it becomes illogical/forced. I cannot say about side characters especially a side character like Shouji.

      It was this flashback here:
      https://readms.net/r/namaikizakari/098/5764/19

      I can even imagine that's what happened with Shou's ex -- how they became a couple.

      Like what options? Though I think the mangaka will flesh them out more like with the high school members. Hehe, like how Shouji, Abe and the others are.

      Hm...I wonder. It is a bit inconsistent though...perhaps, more so if she isn't really close to that someone? Like in the first chapter, she didn't react during their first meeting, or the other stuff. But as they become closer/she falls in love, her responses to his advances become more instinctive/self-defense. It seems like she doesn't react much/no big deal if it is 'others'/not really important/loved by her? <- theory.

      Before, yes. I'm not sure now especially since the chapters are becoming shorter lately. Well, at least, it isn't super short like in the last, last, last chapter...they are just talking in the car and that's it. Sometimes, I feel that the mangaka puts in irrelevant information to prolong a chapter like in that chapter, they were talking about dogs.

      Haha, perhaps, I wouldn't mind if the chapter is longer and comes out more frequently like a long, long time ago.

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    8. Ah yes, the siblings definitely provide comic relief! It’s funny, because older people would stereotype me as something like childish because I didn’t have any siblings to babysit until quite late. So it’s like there’s no way anyone can win! An only child will be seen as immature in a tiny family, but people don’t worry that in bigger families the ‘older sister’ like Yuki will be overloaded.
      (There was recently a study released about family size, and normally it was actually the parents –particularly the primary parent, usually the mother – who was most often overloaded, especially with more than one child. Each child is a consistent time drain, and it’s doubled with each additional child, no economies of scale. That causes chronic stress.
      – You can see that in Namaikizakari, actually, in the flashback when the young family were on a trip, and Yuki wished she could go with just her grandma. Yuki’s parents are in the background frantically wrangling all the rest of the kids. What a stress fest!)

      Re the word ‘parentification’. The term comes from family law (iirc in the USA). It can be used as I’m using it, about loading up a child with misplaced responsibility for caring for their siblings, as if the elder sibling was their parent. But even only children can be parentified, because their parents can be so ditzy the child has to parent the mom or dad, ie role reversal. Eg I remember a dad in Judith Wallerstein’s study who was depressed after his divorce and drank in the evenings. His (elementary school, iirc) kid would call him every weeknight to tell him to stop drinking and go to bed.
      People use the word ‘parentification’ *because* they don’t approve and believe it’s inappropriate and exploitative for parents to do that. People who approve or are neutral (so they claim) use different words. Bigwig birth order experts say the eldest child is ‘dethroned’ when the next sibling is born, for instance.
      How rude! That’s probably why eldest children get rude in response sometimes. I read a book long ago by a psychologist eldest child who quoted research that it was better for a kid’s development to have 2.5 years before a sibling arrives. The book was titled “They F- You Up, Your Mum and Dad”!

      The writer certainly does not share my grim attitude – she can see the funny side too well for that! But there are enough little ‘truth bombs’ to keep me happy. Yuki mentally describing her sibling group as little kids as ‘a monstrous battlefield’. Or grumpily not wanting her siblings to visit her at home for years after her brothers’ stupid quarrel. The flashback I mentioned already.
      …And, in this chapter, the fact that Yuki thought she was becoming a worse person because she is waking up to her own needs. That means, IMO, that Yuki’s default is defining herself as a caretaker and deriving her self-worth primarily from that.
      It took her suitor-then-boyfriend’s demands on her time to jolt her into realizing she doesn’t make time for herself, she doesn’t ‘self-care’ enough; but she only realizes that when the leftover time she has to herself does not stretch to ‘me time’ AND ‘relationship time’.
      (That is only realistic if you’re VERY lucky. It can get worse. There are lots of selfish people (‘psychephiles’) out there who want a partner who will sacrifice their own needs and become the selfish person’s minion.)

      The team members wanting to carry their share of the load is very refreshing, given what’s gone before. (Not that I’m blaming the high school guys for pigeonholing Yuki as a super-efficient, drill sergeant ‘older sister’ (gangsta-style(?) – they are just clueless, not exploitative.)

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    9. Ah, probably I don’t properly understand the cultural resonance of ‘you’re okay without me’, or ‘do you really like me?’ With my reference points, the first one is supposed to be positive. I mean, it’s usually feminist/girl-powerful, like in pop songs: “I’m good, with or without you” or “I don’t need a man / To make it happen” – you know, empowering girls to be independent women, not about boys growing up to be independent men. But boy or girl, I thought it was more romantic to be wanted rather than needed?
      And with ‘do you really like me’ – I’m just confused. Maybe it’s not as negative in Japanese. I know (formal? Semi-formal?) low-pressure invitations are given in the negative: eg ‘Shall we not go to a movie?’
      But in very personal conversations, I don’t know. If you have any hope of saving the relationship, wouldn’t you ask an open question like ‘how do you feel about me?’ and avoid giving off a negative vibe?

      Re Shou’s ex. Since she broke off the relationship, I would be surprised if she’s still into him; it would be inconsistent. Unrealistic as well, because the one to make the decision to split up recovering quicker than the one who got dumped is the standard thing (barring complicating factors).
      But you know this fiction genre better than me, so I wouldn’t bet against your predictions!

      What exactly may have happened? Is it a similarity to the trivial chatting couple – you think Shou and his ex used to have pleasant but empty conversations like that?

      Oh, I just meant the options you mentioned earlier – for developing characters with basketball featuring as more than a social setting. I assumed something a bit different – that basketball (especially, dramatic matches, not only training sessions) would get pushed into the background for a while because Shou is still kind of starting off as a small fish in a big pond in university basketball.

      Ah…I guess there could be a mix of feelings? I read Yuki’s reactions to Shou invading her space (or being bumped into and using her to break his fall, when they first met) as more maintaining calm / passive resistance, rather than freezing in fear or confusion? Though she was somewhat confused as well, because Shou would not give her enough detail about his intentions before he acted on them. He usually gives some hints, maybe a general outline, though. As the manga goes on, there seems to be a lot of ‘negotiating boundaries’ going on, reasonably respectful – though I don’t suppose it’s an exact match for textbook ‘enthusiastic consent’.
      I see a lot more confusion in her delayed reactions to Suwa and Shizuka not respecting her boundaries. It makes sense, because they give mixed messages and project their issues onto her, and maybe also because not seeing something inconvenient coming when people won’t be clear with you is an even easier mistake than the standard ‘not seeing what you don’t want to see’. And it was/is very inconvenient. For many more reasons than the one the manga focuses on: Yuki already has a boyfriend, a possessive boyfriend.

      I am conditioned to expect heroines to deliver the ‘I wouldn’t want you if I was single – and here’s why…’ line when a guy gets grabby/looming. Happened in my favourite period dramas. …Oh right; in one the spurned stalker then attempted to murder the boyfriend. And I’ve seen that kind of thing in real life – the news, true crime.
      …So, yeah, it feels like a big deal to me. I guess now I know why!

      Yes, it is kind of snack-sized recently.
      Ah…I wonder if there is another purpose; maybe cute dogs = fanfiction explosion? It IS a great substitute for shotgun wedding stories (rather tricky to write now, with the heroine’s disapproving mom): dog-‘parenting’/dog-sitting duties.

      Oh, I understand that you won’t want to discuss recent Skip Beat chapters unless there is enough eventful material to ‘chew’ on. I’m just grateful to have been able to discuss it with you in the past when it was giving me HEAPS of food for thought. I learnt a lot. ^^

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    10. Indeed. Though I would think that depends on the person. I recall a classmate saying that she would love to have lots of kids because she is from a big family. It is more 'fun/lively' with many of them around. I would think that perhaps, an extrovert would most likely prefer a big family.

      It's also like in traveling. Some people would like the places all by themselves <- don't like crowds. Whereas some would say, it is 'lively' and they like the place <- pretty much shopping district with lots of young people.

      Interesting. Here, in our country especially with the poor, it happens. In big families, the older kids has to help out the parents with taking care of the kids and even earning a living. Actually, in Yuki's family's case...I wonder if it is because they didn't have family planning. ^^; I mean, after a daughter then triplets...won't they think, that's enough?

      True. Hehe...that's true. In a way, I would think that they also want to feel 'needed' by becoming someone's minion. Well, that person ought to be benefiting from something, right?

      Hehe, true.

      Hm...but isn't needed > wanted? It comes out to me like am I important to you? I'm thinking of basic definition wherein need = cannot live without vs wanted = can live without. That 'do you really like me' is like the other person isn't feeling that the other party is head over heels in love. Perhaps, the signs/actions/words aren't there. Perhaps, not treated as a lover?

      Since you read Skip Beat, I would think that it is something like how those girls reacted to Ren before. They don't feel that he loves them. And they pretend to break up but Ren thought they were serious. That's what comes into mind. Hehe, actually, iirc, this mangaka likes Skip Beat since she made a fan comic about SB that was published in the magazine before.

      Well, I'm thinking more of unrequited love. Something like, setting you free since you don't love me, but my heart always belongs to you.

      Possible...or perhaps, acting like 'friends'? Going out on dates, talking about things but nothing romantic. I'm not sure if I would put in sex though...again, something like SB Ren had done. After all, in shoujo, the first is always very important whether kiss or doing it.

      I see.

      Suwa possible though as of late, should she still be confused over Shizuka's intention? I do wonder if part of it is from 'not wanting to offend' to the point of being polite. After all, she had been suppressing her real feelings and want to act mature. In a way, it is like being mature = suppress feelings = act properly/dignified and don't be a bother to anyone. Ah...I think that's how most Japanese are.

      Out of curiosity...what is the why in 'I wouldn’t want you if I was single – and here’s why…' Though that kind doesn't happen often, right?

      Well, it doesn't seem to have a connection with the story. There was another one before...I forgot the chapter but the title has something to do with stage curtains. Kyouko was on a monologue about the sun was it. ^^;; I guess it slightly bothered me because I was thinking, we have only these number of pages, don't use it for 'not important' scenes and it is a full month wait for each chapter.

      =)

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    11. Ah yes, that is all too true, that extroverts and people from big families are likely to base their family planning on the idea that “the more, the merrier”. But you know, “the best laid plans oft go awry”. Eg Extroverts may have introvert children, who are *not* always merry with more siblings and less space and quiet time – plus a parent who doesn’t understand introversion.

      I am an introvert child of an extrovert myself. Though, in terms of travel metaphors, I actually do like the vibrancy of crowds (but not so much the noise, especially in enclosed spaces where I’m trapped – headphones essential on public transport) and I love visiting bigger family and friend circles than my nuclear family. Even for long stretches in the past, like an exchange student instead of a tourist. But it’s still pretty similar to a holiday destination, these bigger families. It’s not where I’m from, where my identity was formed – and it’s nowhere I could afford to live if I wanted to. Costs too much financially and in terms of ‘emotional load’.
      (Also, by way of comparison, in car advertisements, usually the car is all by itself on the road – even on long stretches of road – with beautiful country scenery, of course – or with shiny skyscrapers in the background, where normally there would be heavy city traffic. Extroverts buy cars, not only introverts. Based on that, having the ability to go off on a ‘lone wolf’ excursion seems like an option that has *universal* appeal. But you don’t have that option if you’re tied down with caretaking duties towards your kids or siblings.)

      To take it from a slightly different angle, there are risk factors and protective factors. Time pressure created by parenting is an adult mental health and child abuse risk factor, with a stable time cost per child. However, it’s a protective factor to have a realistic idea of the difficulty of parenting in advance. It’s more probable that extroverts and people from big families do have some idea of that, but there will be a rose-colored glasses effect too. The effect must have been strong even before this research, because people did not choose the cheapest option en masse in difficult times. (Or second cheapest option compared to child-free status, but in terms of personal health and welfare, given the scandals about aged care, I guess it could be helpful to have at least one descendant double-checking your circumstances.)

      The way some people reacted online, it seemed they were still in denial that having children, plural, IS comparatively a difficult task. They were receiving the same underlying message, that your mental health will depend on whether you have the resources to perform the task of parenting x number of child/ren, (not whether you achieve your preferred family size) but they probably would have reacted better to the decades-old research about one of the ‘external’ resources they may have access to – in-house grandmothering improving child survival rates hundreds of years ago.
      Although in the context of this manga, that’s still kind of bittersweet. It’s nice that Yuki HAD a grandmother, a caring grandmother, although she looked a bit frail to physically care for more than one at a time, perhaps. But losing your grandmother is bad enough without the other elders in your life being too busy to give you much attention.

      I see. Using kids as unpaid careworkers and contributors of financial support. It reminds me of Raphael Samuel’s arguments, but cases with better evidence. There could be a class action lawsuit one day.
      I wonder what Yuki’s parents were thinking as well. It doesn’t seem logical, because family planning would be cheaper than feeding all those kids. Maybe they didn’t have much money to pay for contraception earlier? I don’t think the mangaka will explain, though.

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    12. It’s definitely not beneficial to become a minion to a psychephile partner. It’s very destabilizing. Psychephiles gaslight the giving partner into believing they can’t do enough for the psychephile – and ARE not doing enough. That makes the victim feel inadequate, because caretaking is their core identity. Meanwhile, there’s collateral damage all over the place, because the victim is actually doing *too much* for the psychephile, and neglecting any other responsibilities they have – eg to their child/ren.

      Many people believe ‘needed > wanted’, including writers, sometimes. (I’m not sure about this manga.) For me, need = dependency = no freedom; and the most romantic thing is to be *freely chosen*, which is basically a very high/long-term level of ‘wanted’. Like Yuki’s declaration to Shou, (not exact words) that he is the best in world in her eyes, no competition. That’s not realistic of Yuki – and she’s normally given to realism. But she has chosen to focus on Shou; she wants him, she’s not interested in romantic rivals.
      The time I’ve seen something similar to my feelings about choice most baldly stated was in Koi da no Ai da no. The heroine told the hero’s rival that it was probably true ‘heroine + rival’ was the more logical match, their way of thinking (scheming backroom machinations in pursuit of the greater good) was more similar than heroine + hero. The heroine does NOT argue that her ‘opposites attract’ relationship is better. It’s more that, over time, the hero and heroine have grown together, heavily emotionally invested in each other. There’s attachment. The heroine won’t abandon that for, objectively speaking, a better offer (more intuitive communication with the rival). And she didn’t feel the slightest twinge of regret, iirc.

      There wasn’t really enough detail on Ren’s romantic history. I just got a vague sense that he was being too…smooth? Like his dream lover reputation now, but younger, a gallant ‘promising young man’. Not showing anything beneath the smooth surface – none of the vulnerability and playfulness he showed kiddy Kyoko. It’s no good being ‘dreamy’ if you’d behave in the same gentlemanly way with anyone you were dating. You should be able to have unique conversations and other interactions. It should be a learning experience even if it doesn’t work out. But Ren doesn’t learn anything, so the pattern repeats. And even with time for reflection, by age 20 he still didn’t know that, say, *duration* is more of a measure of your relationship history than number of people dated.

      It is possible that Shou’s ex was yielding to the inevitable rather than not that into him. Since we don’t the timing exactly iirc and it could be close to high school applications time. They end up going to different high schools, and Shou has a lot of extracurricular hours. Maybe the girlfriend predicted that, or made it happen because that was best for their individual futures – and didn’t think there was time available for their relationship. Break up now rather than slowly and painfully drift apart?

      Okay, dating but not very different from friendship, not very deep and meaningful.

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    13. Probably not, you’re right. (I don’t linger over those incidents, so I’m not 100% sure.) But knowing Shizuka’s motivations doesn’t much him much more predictable. He still makes sudden moves based on thoughts only the readers can hear. I agree that Yuki is trying containment strategies, trying to avoid making scenes, or other social disruption. But that causes freeze response. You can freeze and wonder what to do (another type of confusion), but don’t have the option of flight or fight if you’re uncomfortable offending the person cornering you. And yet it’s more than fair to respond to a sudden move with a sudden move. And, ironically, it could be the better containment strategy in this context as well, Yuki having a delayed response to threats to her relationship put Shou on higher alert than he would be if she had more reflexive defense mechanisms – though as I said, there’s too much of a focus on that, a solution-free focus on the status quo, rather self-defense classes or *something* - please!

      The ‘why I wouldn’t want you’ reason was something like ‘if you really cared about me, you would have backed off when I told you to. Based on that, I don’t trust you not to cause me and mine harm / disgrace.’

      I see. I only dimly remember that. Maybe around the same time as the vengeful mini-me spirits using full-body ‘sun’ protection after one of them got fried by a smile? But they often steal the show.

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    15. Zozo, Sorry but I don't think you're right in that. I mean when Yuki told Shou that "he's the best in the world" it was just in a circumstance need. At the moment he was feeling inferior and lack confidence, Yuki's words came as a answer to that circumstance. Not that she loves him because he's the best in the world. Or that she compared. And the prove is that Hakamada has been always better than him in basketball, but Yuki chose and loved Shou even with that, even with him being not the best in basketball, with his defects and looses. And it never showed that she had a slightly regret. those words and their conversation back then was just in a basketball filed. (Not in overall: life, personality, choice, etc, as how You say it)
      Her words exactly meant that, "I love you even if you're not the best" (= I'm content by/with you even if you're not the best) and this is how love should be, and I was always so fond with that in Namaikizakari. (Yuki loves the less good one in basketball, and she never think twice in that) So I think you're not right in your thinking.

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    16. Prefacing with 'sorry' does not improve your comment. It is not civil, let alone courteous. For future reference, 'I disagree with you', or 'I see it differently' is much less likely to offend people than 'you're wrong' (twice). This isn't even science or anything: you can't present me with objective proof and convince me.
      And there was nitpicking. I SAID 'not exact words'. I also did not detail the circumstances that inspired the declaration, but that does mean I am in error, it means I'm trying to be brief.

      I am not even sure we are in disagreement on certain key facts.
      (Although on minor points, I do disagree. Shizuka/Hakamada was too small to be better at basketball when they were small. So unless you are giving major points for effort and commitment, he was not always better.
      ...And iirc the 'best' declaration took place on the street and startled the passersby.)

      To clarify what I said, the message is like: 'there is no competition because I am not looking for someone better, I am only aiming for the one I am in a relationship with now - and even if someone (supposedly) better appears in my path, I will reject them.'

      I do see the portrayal of the proto-professional and personal life nexus very differently. I don't think they are in stark contrast. I am even not that interested in the basketball factor, but it did and does seem to have some sort of romantic importance iirc. Not that performance alone matters a lot, but you can't perform well unless you make a consistent effort physically, also in organising your time, and socially as well - it's teamwork. As it's shown here, the personality qualities you need to have/develop - responsibility, consideration for others, time management, persistence, resilience - are also good qualities in a romantic partner.

      (This is what I guess is the mangaka's message. Personally, I'm not very receptive to it because I have a different experience of sport - encountered a lot of selfish and cliqueish behavior. And far from all, but one after another, a few stars of spectator sports keep getting caught behaving very badly as well, which damages the reputation of sport as 'good, clean fun' and character-building.)

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    17. Correction: the street setting's not relevant. Not that sort of 'field' and it's basketball not baseball anyway. Hazard of skim re-reading.

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    18. Sorry, i was kinda rude yep.

      Yep but Yuki didn't know Hakamada (and Naruse) at that time. She knew him when he's better. And that didn't make her love for Naruse shake or anything.

      I didn't understand what you mean by that, "And iirc the 'best' declaration took place on the street and startled the passersby"

      Yes, I understood you/that well. that: 'There's no competition because I am not looking for someone better, I am only aiming for the one I am in a relationship with now - and even if someone (supposedly) better appears in my path, I will reject them.' ; I mean isn't Yuki's "you're the best in the world" means exactly that? Since he is really not the best right now. But "I'm Oki with you, I love you even if, and I'm not gonna wish/fall for the better than you, and she did reject them too" .. I'm surprised really! Oh, kat tell me, didn't it mean that?

      True, basketball helps in developing those (and any sport I think) .. ah, but from this part to the end it's not related to our subject (best) right? Because I couldn't seem to include it.

      if yes, then ya the Mangaka's msg in this chapter 99 was partly that too. (I mean beside Yuki's realization of herself)

      Sorry, I didn't understand that again, "Correction: the street setting's not relevant. Not that sort of 'field' and it's basketball not baseball anyway. Hazard of skim re-reading"

      Sorry again for my rudeness.

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    20. And true about your last part, some fans turn the sport from "clean, etc" to "bad, harmful, etc" .. that if I understood correctly what you meant. :&

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    21. Apology accepted.

      Yes, but effort/dedication does matter – it’s what Yuki tells Suwa that she loves about Shou/Naruse in chapter 80. It’s not the success itself that is attractive, it’s the *effort* that leads to success.
      Hakamada’s present success resulted from his past efforts. (And Yuki would probably know that. She did research on the opposing teams in high school. You can observe a sportsperson’s progress in their stats and estimate the effort required for that progress.) Seems to me his dedication to basketball is depicted as an attractive quality. But it’s not the only important factor. Besides, he has unattractive qualities as well (I notice them the most).

      I misunderstood your phrase ‘in the basketball field’ when I glanced back over it. I thought you were confusing basketball ‘court’ and ‘field’ and saying that Yuki’s “you’re the best” declaration happened on a basketball court, rather than in a street. Then I read what you said again later and realized that you didn’t mean ‘field’ literally at all.

      'There's no competition because I am not looking for someone better’ etc was the part I thought we agreed on all along. A difference of phrasing or interpretation rather than a difference of opinion. I just couldn’t understand why you thought I misunderstood the manga if our views were so similar on this key point.

      I don’t agree. Besides the ‘Yuki loves the way Shou gives his all in basketball’ statement in Chapter 80, after Yuki’s “best” declaration (chapter 83), Shou says he felt outclassed by ‘mature-looking guys’ and better basketballers. In the same breath.
      Given all that, it looks interrelated to me. Along these lines: a ‘mature’ attitude -> effort -> success (in love and/or sport).

      The correction was me trying to correct my misunderstanding of ‘in the basketball field’ earlier. Without success. (More detail above.)

      Actually, no I don’t mean that some fans (hooligans? trolls?) twist sports into something ugly. (Though I’m sure that happens.) I mean that sometimes sportspeople get in scandals like politicians, and if the sportspeople are star performers – attract viewers and make money for the team, the league, and the networks – then unlike politicians, they may survive the disgrace instead of discreetly disappearing.
      A lot of these scandals are criminal: violence against women, sex crimes. (And technically, it is criminal to get in a brawl as well, or just do an harmful and unusual illegal move – both are assault.)

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    22. Yes you're right. But in the end and anyway he's the better now.
      True, but I don't think she did searches on primary schools, but just high schools, and maybe middle schools. Plus he was in hokkaido till high school so it's hard to collect informations. I got that she started her searches on his team/school in high School, like it showed in chapter 10. And when he and Shou would tell her about their basketball childhood she'd surprised, and seems to don't know.

      Ah, out of curiosity, what's his unattractive qualities you think of?

      Oh, I see. Yup, I didn't mean it literally.

      Oh, I see. You know I actually didn't understand you well. I mean I can't seem to well understand the way you talk. English isn't my first Language, and it's not even the second language in my country. We just had some hours to learn it. And I didn't even took extra classes to learn it, i just randomly learn it, so I'm not so good. The way and the words you use is kinda hard to me, so πŸ˜… especially the way though.

      I agree with you in that part, I mean you're right. This part→ "I don’t agree. Besides the ‘Yuki loves the way Shou gives his all in basketball’ statement in Chapter 80, after Yuki’s “best” declaration (chapter 83), Shou says he felt outclassed by ‘mature-looking guys’ and better basketballers. In the same breath.
      Given all that, it looks interrelated to me. Along these lines: a ‘mature’ attitude -> effort -> success (in love and/or sport)" .... But I didn't figure on what part you're answering me with it? Especially since you said,'i don't agree" ,, Really sorry for all those confusions of mine. :,,

      Oh ya ya, it's Oki.

      Oh, I see. Well, again it's the language that made me misunderstood πŸ˜…
      So Yup, you're right. So say even sports can't clear/refrain human darkness. Cause I usually hear that sport can clear the person, physically and mentally.

      Ah, by the way, I love your dedication about Namaikizakari, I mean the way you deeply understand and care about it is beautiful, really make me happy, thank you. :)

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    23. Zozo, ah...that is a dilemma. I see. Something like 'for a change' though not wanting for it to be permanent. Hm...so the car advertisement is more like an 'escape/dream'.

      Interesting. Here, that is one of the major reasons to marry and have kids. It is for someone/your child to take care of you when you're old. Some would even adopt. Because of close family ties, you are deemed an ingrate if you send your parent to home of the aged.

      Resources to perform the task = meaning wealth hence can hire nannies and kids to daycare?
      Here, that is how it still is. When one is a single parent or not earning enough so both parents working, the grandparents usually grandmother is 'asked' to help out with babysitting. This is usually for the poor. The others can afford to hire nannies.

      But then, there is also a case of migrants from our country to the Western country who are not used to not having nannies/maids. They would petition/'ask' their mother usually retired to come to help take care of the kids and/or household work while they have work.

      True.

      Ah...because of the culture here, as I mentioned above, you'll most likely have a bad reputation if you sue your parents.

      Indeed. I'm imagining that since the father works abroad, iirc, for long periods of time, he comes back and they do lovey-dovey. Perhaps, in the excitement and longing, forgot contraception. ^^;

      Ah...a very extreme case of 'you are my world'. But, if they don't have children and the partner is a stay-home type. Will there still be a collateral damage?

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    24. I see. In a way, isn't dependency = no freedom, kind of like love? The usual saying, cannot help falling in love. Cannot freely stop oneself from falling for someone whom the heart says yes and the mind says no. In a way, need = emotion/heart while want = logic/head.

      I see. So, in a way, 'time together and 'emotionally investment' are one of the many factors on why a certain person was 'chosen', not just because of 'attraction'. It can be an individual preference. In the long term, the 'differences' might be apparent and can cause friction...among other problems in marriage. When things go tough and there is someone who's a better match [can talk to in the same level, etc], there can be a 'temptation'. I have read stories on 'ask advice' that has that kind of situation. ^^;

      Ah, maybe this is something like the preference of marrying your 'best friend' or marrying a 'lover'. Marrying someone similar to you [<-life can be boring] or not [<- more friction/adventure?].

      Hm...I'm thinking more on before he went to Japan except when meeting with Kyouko so it was when he was Kuon. Given his age in those flashbacks, is it possible that it was a way of coping up from the bullying in the set? Girls are throwing themselves at him and he needs a self-confidence boost? And, it isn't exactly because he is in love with them. As the gentleman Ren, I think he never dated anyone since it is post Rick's death = self-guilt, etc. Usually, in shoujo, that is the reason for a playboy...some trauma/past issue. ^^;;

      Ah, that is what I meant so I assumed that she still loves him but decided to set him free. Much like what Ren's ex-es told him during their break up. In a way, it is a test. Like seeing if he'll look back and chase after you when you are leaving.

      Hehe, true. Perhaps, it is the suddenness that is catching her off guard and not wanting to offend. After all, he was praising her one minute, then acting awkward and suddenly hugging, etc.

      Ah...so it is like 'do as you are being told; respect my space, etc'. Honestly, I'm not good at such...I mean, for others, it can be like 'not saying what you mean' or 'playing hard to get'. Let's see how persistent you are for my love. I think it is like the sex scenes in shoujo usually smut, girl says no, no...guy does it anyway, girl gives in and in the end, both are happy.

      I found it luckily, it is this one...oh well, maybe it is to set the phase of the chapter ^^ http://speedsystem.biz/manga/skip-beat/201

      Haha, true. ^^ Though they don't show up as often as before.

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    25. Silia,
      Oh. I didn’t mean primary school level sports data/stats must be available. No, I’m guessing that, maybe, in middle school and high school, you start at a high level and improve fast if you practiced sport a lot in primary school. But another person, who was a bit lazy in practicing at primary school, they are at a lower level starting middle/high school and/or improvement is slower.

      Hakamada’s unattractive qualities…? He has low level social skills outside basketball – very low with girls. Not so bad if he was *learning* more interpersonal skills, but he isn’t, I think. Recently, he listened to bad advice and he did not respect personal space. It’s annoying. And I think it’s threatening.

      I see. Things got ‘lost in translation’. That happens. I am learning Japanese myself, and I often don’t understand a sentence well.
      I probably don’t use the clearest words in English, I use the ones that ‘sound good’ to me. My memory is best for sounds – not so good at selecting the clearest synonym. So probably my natural writing is too ‘poetic’. I do speak more clearly, and I can write more clearly if I’m careful and go slowly.

      I hope this is clearer. I didn’t agree with your statement here:
      “True, basketball helps in developing those (and any sport I think) .. ah, but from this part to the end it's not related to our subject (best) right? Because I couldn't seem to include it.”
      I thought the message in the manga was that personal qualities and ‘professional’/sport qualities ARE related: same skills required for success in sport as in personal life; effort improves skills.
      More evidence: after Yuki tells Shou he is ‘the best’, Shou says was unconfident because he saw both his ‘maturity’ level (personal) and basketball level (‘professional’) as not very high ie lots of university guys have higher levels.

      Well, there are historians who say that sports replaced many fights/wars (small ones). So that’s an improvement.
      There is also a problem with methods of training young people for spectator sports. It is kind of teaching them to be workaholics – not healthy. And they are with same-sex teammates for a lot of their time as well – don’t learn social skills for mixed-gender environments.
      Non-professional sports may be healthier. I didn’t know any sport ‘clears the mind’ though. I thought only yoga…

      That’s easy, being a fan. Namaikizakari is interesting easy to read and relaxing.
      It’s only a pity the translators are not friendly with teams who make non-English translations. More fans can enjoy a manga if it’s in multiple languages – like Skip Beat in Spanish, not just in English.

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    27. Zozo,
      oh ya you are right!

      Yes, right! As you mentioned that, since Yuki met Shou he actually helped her move forward, she learned interpersonal skills, be expressive, etc. :) Meanwhile if she dated a so similar one to her she won't develop, etc. :)

      Oh, yes πŸ˜… you're good, hehe.

      Oh, yes, you're right! I didn't really noticed that until you told me. :)

      True. By 'clears the mind' I meant like, sport can limits the person from being a delinquent, or get into fights, a healthy body, etc. But at a minimum of course.

      Oh, I think there's a Spanish translation of Namaikizakari! And they're at chapter 98 I think.

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    28. Kat,
      Yes, a refreshing change, different from normal lifestyle.
      Yes, an 'escape/dream'; reminds me of “Fast Car”, by Tracy Chapman.

      I see. Here, most people would be better off in the future financially if they put maximum money in savings. Many people prefer to have children – which is expensive – because it gives them emotional satisfaction. Rather like pets – not useful and also expensive, but fun.
      Hmm…actually, although I do primarily read Western things on aged care – and estrangement (usually, rejecting abusive elders), there is a lot of silence in the West on these topics.
      Here, it’s not shameful to send your parent to aged care if they have high needs for care, because it’s impossible to do yourself – you need to have time to work to pay for your house and to feed yourself and family, etc. But people don’t talk about very big problems between the generations. Eg before aged care, when old people are living alone okay – then the biggest problem is self-neglect ie old people don’t take care of themselves.
      We NEVER talk about self-neglect, though. We notice other things: when younger people help elders a lot and get stressed (‘young carers’); OR when younger generations *say* they’re helping, but are actually more of a problem, stealing money or being cruel to their elder (‘elder abuse’).
      We rarely talk about estrangement ie cutting off contact with relatives, either. I guess it’s because the reason is ugly – people don’t want to think about it –, it’s usually child abuse and/or neglect, and then the kid grows up and escapes. So, people don’t do the math: over 10% child abuse = 10% estrangement. (That’s just the very obvious cases of abuse, actually. ‘Not very caring’ parenting as a total is bigger – around 40%.)
      …Maybe people are silent in public, and talk anonymously on the internet about this in other countries, too?
      Sometimes there is something public, as well. Apparently, when that Tiger Mother parenting book was released, young people complained. One woman said: ‘This [parenting style] is why I and so many others are in therapy’.

      Ah…Resources for parenting = wealth? Well, ‘time is money’, so I guess, yes?
      The research was about time stress on parents. Time stress will be lower if the parents have resources – wealth to buy childcare, or elders who can afford to babysit (as you mentioned).
      But there is still time stress when kids are older. Life gets more complicated as you grow older, and good parenting is more difficult to achieve (eg parental advice).

      It’s just mathematically easier, guaranteed, if you have fewer kids. Fewer kids have fewer problems, make fewer decisions, etc. (It’s a lie that siblings are always friends, too.) It’s a fact about parenting, parenting long-term, for people to consider as part of their family planning. …And it’s *very* important for people who don’t cope well with stress. Because people will pressure *everyone* to have kids (not one kid, kidS), or more kids – but resisting the pressure is less stressful than giving in and having kids; there is scientific proof!

      It depends on the law, how public lawsuit(s) would have to be. A “wrongful birth” case would be so unusual that it would get a lot of press attention. But that’s Anglo law. By contrast, there’s a right to maintenance in some of the European countries with the civil code (from Napoleon) – and a few Latin American countries. People can sue their parents for maintenance under those civil codes very quietly. They are ‘normal’ cases – they don’t attract a lot of attention.
      (Many commentators were suggesting a teenager in one of these countries should sue his horrible homophobic parents who kicked him out recently. It was the parents who got a bad reputation = social media scandal.)

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    29. I see zozo. ^^

      Hm...I got the impression that in the West, they aren't that into having big families. That is one reason why the people/church here say contraception is bad. Like, look, at this country, their population is on the decline. Children are gifts. Yes, abortion is illegal here. One extreme pro-life even said that sperms are alive so masturbating = abortion. --;

      Hm...so usually, when are the parents sent to aged care? When they cannot take care of themselves? It is believed here that when a child reaches 18 in the West, s/he is 'kicked out' of the house to be independent. I have a cousin who stayed in the US. They [/two sons] send their parents to aged care/live separately since they cannot stand living in the same house.

      Is this self-neglect in aged care or their own kids? Here, the well-to-do parents usually pamper the kids. It is joked that we have a lot of mama's boys here. In a way, perhaps, there is also this mentality of 'I'm not old' that a lot of people don't want to be treated as some helpless old person.

      Ah, that is a factor. Perhaps. Hm...I always got the impression that 'tiger mom'-types are usually Asians. ^^;

      I see. And, this research is on working parents? Hm...in what way? When kids are older, it is usually busy with school and social life. I assume that there will be less 'stress' unless the kid is somewhat problematic...teen problems, etc.

      That's true. Siblings do not necessarily get along with each other. Haha, it should. After all, being pressured is just for some time whereas having kids = many years. For Asian traditional families, there is even more pressure since one of the kids has to be a boy.

      I see. Hm...I guess regarding that case, it would depend on how the country views homosexuals. I mean if the people are generally homophobic, the parents 'aren't bad'. In some stories here, it usually takes time for the parents to accept.

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    30. Yes, that’s true, Kat. (But there are some rare exceptions. Eg Very religious Irish Catholics, or very Orthodox Jews. Most people, of any religion, are not very very religious in/from the West.) But most Westerners still have pro-big-family (and only child-hating) *attitudes*. It’s the social norm to plan to have 3 or 4 kids, but the average is actually 1 or 2. Family plans often get interrupted by divorce. Then there’s remarriage/blended families. Including half-siblings and steps, blended families are actually quite big. The birth stats aren’t big, because the stats just measure ‘children born per woman’, but it’s still expensive for all the parents to pay for the kids and separate houses for the couples with room for all the children to visit or live.
      Huh? That’s weird. No population decline in the West – very attractive to immigrants.
      …Oh, there is a Monty Python joke song about that: ‘Every Sperm is Sacred’. Ha, ha, the hardline anti-choice people should watch out, they might get re-mixed / sampled into a cover version!

      People are sent into aged care when they have very bad mobility problems or mental decline / dementia. Some are not that old. If you have health problems or get injured, there may be a lot of damage and you need care younger. (Some young people with high-level care needs, eg from bad car wrecks, are in aged care.) For lower-level needs, there are also retirement villages or assisted living.
      … Only abusive parents kick their kids out at 18 years old in the West. Normally parents support their kids until they are finished college or technical school, in their twenties. Often for longer, so the kid can work and save up a deposit and qualify to get a housing loan. But because of the global financial crisis, there is not much affordable housing in the West, so many parents still have 30-something and 40-something children living with them. See the French film ‘Tanguy’ or the Australian TV series ‘Packed to the Rafters’.
      I think a lot of people can’t stand living together – and that is why retirement villages, or a halfway measure like ‘granny flats’ (separate rooms/separate building, same land) are so popular. The worst part of living together is sharing the kitchen and bathrooms. And elders think that if they can see you, they get to criticise you. (My grandmother is the WORST! – and not even the healthiest. I’ll cook as I like.)

      Self-neglect is not in aged care homes, it is old people living alone in their own homes who don’t take care of themselves. They don’t cook or clean properly (or order meals from one of those pre-made delivery services), so they don’t eat well, etc. Their house is a mess, so they bump into things and get injured. Sometimes they drink too much…Self-neglect is not considered neglect by the kids. The kids have moved out to be independent; that’s desirable. Often old people are too proud to ask younger people in the family for help – especially since they don’t *physically* need help, it’s mainly psychological.

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    32. Oh, it’s not only Asian parents who can be hard taskmasters. I’ve heard of Euro-American parents who expect all A+ grades, or a graduation from college ‘summa cum laude’ from their children – even when the parent/s did NOT achieve that. It’s just not socially acceptable in the West – so nothing is said in *public*.

      The ‘time cost’ causes stress. It’s not just ‘bad stress’ (ie dealing with problems), but also ‘good stress’ (eg organising birthday parties, going to parent-teacher meetings; catering sleepovers). It’s hard work, even if it is ‘carework’. ‘Carework’ is NOT relaxing. Maybe ‘carework’ IS satisfying, but it’s not relaxing. It’s not ‘me time’. (And ‘carework’ is not even very satisfying when there are problems. Statistically, your kid is more likely to be facing problems than behaving problematically – eg far more kids are victims than bullies – but it’s frustrating.)
      Also, other stressful things can happen. One of my grandparents died when I was a teen. My mother was ill for a long time (she recovered).

      True, the pressure is only temporary! It reminds me of a couple I saw in a news feature story on family size. They told their son – only child – when he asked if he could have a sibling, that they were too old to have children. They lied; they weren’t too old. They just didn’t want any pressure!
      I guess continuing the male line – having boy/s – is for handing on the family name? Wow, my family would not do well at that, we’ve been female-dominated for generations. So if I wanted to preserve the family name, I would try bribery instead; give the female line descendants who changed their family name to mine a trust fund.

      Only a (sometimes vocal) minority in that country are homophobic. It is one of the countries with gay marriage. Also, there was terrible parenting before they kicked their teenage son out, as well. They made him sleep in the garage. He kept getting sick because of that. It was a clear case of child abuse. So the homophobic minority were silent, and the vocal majority were enraged at the parents.

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    33. I see. And those very religious = wealthy? Oh, that's right. In those cases, it will end up being a 'big family'.

      There's none? Population decline is actually and indeed one of the incentives for migrant workers here to work overseas. They have more old people and less young people so they need people from other countries to fill the jobs especially aged care, etc.

      Hm..perhaps, what was meant is less population than it should have? That's what the anti-contraceptives say. Using those can cause infertility and side effects, etc. Of course, that is aside from the fact some women opt for career than family.

      Haha.

      I see. And, these are free from the government or the family pays for it?

      Ah, I see. I thought that situation is only in Asian countries wherein the 30+ and 40+ live with their parents. Actually, it is preferred to live with them and hopes the in-laws get along with each other. ^^ After all, when the parents get older, the children will have to take care of them. It is always assumed that the West would want their children to be independent so live away as soon as possible. It's no longer the case?

      Ah, true. That is what some people here do. Live in the same building but in different flats. If you are rich and owe a bigger land, one building/townhouse-type per family in the compound. Yup, especially if the bathrooms are limited.

      I see. I think I have seen those on reality tv show regarding 'cleaning up a dump of a house'. Sorry forgot the exact title. ^^; Is there a study why they would become like that or were they like that when they were young?

      Oh, I see.

      True. Though doesn't facing problems like bullying also cause behaving problematically?

      Be pressure to have another child or pressure/stress in having more children? Being old doesn't seem to be a deterrent these days...since there are ways to have children scientifically. Okay, more like surrogate-types. ^^; That's what some celebrities here do.

      Yes. And, in family businesses, the successor is usually the son so the wealth is pass on to him, the one who'll continue the surname. Before, more inheritance is also given to the sons. Of course, by law now, it has to be distributed equally. There's always this notion that boys are better than girls...well, they are usually the favorites.

      Haha... Actually, here, it seems that we can get away with it. In the birth certificate, just use the mother's surname. I don't exactly know how it is done...probably bribe or the officer/staff is okay with it. You see, before, I have a classmate whose surname is different from her other sibling. And, they are real siblings. She just says that she used her mother's surname while her brother used their father's surname.

      I see. Hm...so they made him sleep there even before they know he is gay or it was because he is gay that they abused him? I would assume some parents would do that to 'reform' the kid.

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  14. Ahh so sweet Shou and Yuki interaction!!

    I just remembered when Yuki said that "These are paper plates".... Oh my god Yuki, just how desperate were you??? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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    1. Ya...it's good that they talk more.

      Hm...paper plates...in chapter 99? ^^;

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    2. Yess!

      Nah, in chapter 92. Haha

      And Shou in chapter 96, Oh my goddddd...... His heart was jumping like crazy.., haha. <3

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    3. I see.

      Hehe, I thought I missed something ^^;;

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  15. Hi Kat! Hope you have been well,? =D
    Oh, I didn't know about that one, till I went to the previous one to comment.

    Ah, what's is the "jump break" ?

    Agh, I also wanted to hear what was Yuki gonna say ,,( so I'm thinking maybe Shou will remember and then reminds her of it?

    I laughed sm when Yuki was going to say "I've given up" but she switched it to "I've gotten used to it" but Shou like always caught her, haha. I like how he always exposes her, lol. I mean she's cute trying to hide things in that simple way, haha.

    You know Kat, for me, I won't make an issue over fangirls, I mean I won't get jealous over such thing tbh. Haha.

    Ah right, I didn't understand well when Shou told her "what do u want, anything at all, u name it and I'll find it" means when Yuki is struggling over her self/feelings he'd find and turn them into words/explain them to her?

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    1. for me it's more like: now that you become a more "human" you can be more selfish and ask for whatever she want , (her true feelling)

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    2. maika-sama oh, it can be that. Just when he said that I got it like he'd help her distinguish it when she gets lost, about her feelings/self like this time here. (Since she is Yuki, hehe) .. Thank you for your reply :))

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    3. I'm doing well, mary scent ^-^ A bit busy last few days so delayed replies ^^;;

      Jump break is when you have to click the link 'read more' to see the rest of the post.

      Maybe...the mood/similar situation has to be set again though... After all, this is Yuki so she might not easily say it if Shou remembers it.

      True.

      Ya...though I guess, it depends on the kind of fangirls. The ones here in this series aren't that bad.

      And yes, I agree with maika-sama regarding what it meant.

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    4. Take your time :))

      Oh, I see.

      yes, I thought of that too, 'she has to be in the mood' Lol. Though I meant in his own way, maybe he can. Haha.

      Yes.

      I see. Then I'm excited to see 'more honest Yuki', haha.

      U know, I just discovered that Skip Beat and Yona are in the same magazine as Namaikizakari. I don't know a lot about such stuff that's why. Actually I stopped Yona a while ago, I didn't really find it interesting πŸ˜… skip beat, I didn't read it. I mean I tried but couldn't for some reasons. Just some pages from chapter 1. Maybe I'll try it again one day.

      Anyway, I want to say that impatient Scan said they need 2 days (to 3) to translate each chapter of them. And 1-2 days for redraw/typesetting, but for Namaikizakari 2-3 days for redraw :(( they said it's the difficult one (I told you that before) :((

      They translated chapter 100 already, but They said that chapter has a lot of redraw, so it may delay the release. :(



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    5. Yup. I think it is best when they are not busy in school or basketball <- tends to be her priority when she has tasks to do. She is in serious study/manager mode.

      Indeed.

      Yup, it's in the same magazine. Haha...I actually did read Yona. It isn't going the way I wanted it to go... stopped reading for a certain time. Now, read randomly to know what's going on but nah, they're still 'traveling around the world'.

      Skip Beat...well, I read the mangaka's previous series. A bit irked that it was suddenly dropped but in the end, read her new series. It is somewhat like Cinderella, actually. Lol, perhaps, I'm 'attracted to revenge/payback for what you did to me'-type of stories. Haha, was hoping Yona was like that but...shrug.

      Translation is always the easiest. Before, I used to check status updates of English scanlations. The translations is always done quite fast but the release took time due to cleaning, typesetting, and proofing. Redrawing...is to remove the Japanese text especially sounds so that is indeed time consuming. But then, not all scanlators do that.

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    6. Haha, that's right.
      Ah I laughed so much when she told Shou "stop talking to me" lol, so cute!

      It seems that Hana to yume is a well magazine, cause a lot of its manga are popular. Same! But To me i don't think I'll be back to it, haha. In the first place it's not my type (fantasy and action) plus as you mentioned, that 'traveling around the world' thing, isn't interesting to me and kinda cliche. Like, they travel -> have an enemy -> defeat them, then that keep repeated again and again..; it's always like that in shounen anime too.

      Also, I don't know if it's just me, I mean, okay all authors prolong their manga/chapters but in Yona it's too much! Like, when I was reading it, nothing happen in the chapter, like the Mangaka wastes too much pages, where they don't talk in it or anything, just draws power or weapons. πŸ™„ Also when they show that someone or something will come/happen in the end of the chapter it'll be delayed like 10 chapters, In trivial stuff.

      When I caught up and started to read by chapters I noticed that more. When the chapter end I'd get shocked! Nothing happened! 🀷

      You mean the Mangaka stopped it quickly? Haha, so Cinderella! Oh, I see. Well, yes that's interesting. Rather than make the mc weak and too much kind and forgive, this is better, especially if the matter is serious. So By saying 'Yona didn't go the way you wanted, like SB' you mean in how they made Yona forgives suwoon and won't take revenge? (Sorry I think I wrote his name wrong)

      So it's like that. I thought translation is harder tbh. I see. Yes, when I check Namaikizakari, trans would done fast, but those stuff and especially redraw take too much time. More than the other two. I wonder why! is it the way those texts/sounds are writing? Or perhaps the place? like, if they're on top of the characters/drawing? Or maybe the count? I don't remember about Yona, but yes I think they weren't on the top of the characters/drawing but in an empety space. What about skip beat, are they like that? Or there is too much?

      Yes since you mentioned that, why won't they just let the text and write it in the side of the panel? Like "sfx: something" I usually see that.

      Oh, right! I've seen a lot of people wondering about Shou color hair, I mean they'd say "I always imagined him with blonde hair, but it is brown!" I mean I never thought like that, because in the first chapter there was the volume color cover that showed that his hair is brown. And anyway even without it i won't think of him as blonde because it doesn't reflect/suit his personality. I think brown is better for him.
      What annoye me is when they be like, "how disappointed, I wanted him blond" Agh, I really don't like guys with blonde hair. Or a colored eyes. Brown hair and eyes are the best to me. And also it's more realistic like that regarding Japanese.

      And regarding shouji's ex, I think he was at the wrong not her. I mean if he has a point he should have explained to her. Especially since she asked him Many times those: "do you really love me, etc" but he didn't explain at all. And even when she decided to go he let her, without explaining anything again. Of course he was the one who made her feel that she is not loved, and the one who made her break up.

      And yes it's like Shou and his ex situation. Surprisingly I didn't notice that until you mentioned it you know! And now I wonder if the Mangaka was/is hinting on something.

      Shou was the one who made the ex decide to break up, since she felt/knewt he didn't love her. So that "she still like him" is possible. But after all those years I'd find it unrealistic.

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    7. Hehe...

      Yup. True, Yona has become like that. I actually do like shounen. I find their enemies lame or comedic that they couldn't be taken seriously. Given the powers of the dragons, somehow, I feel that they are wasted because they don't have a strategist/a leader who can fully utilize their powers.

      No, iirc, the editor wanted to end the series so it had a somewhat abrupt ending. It is still okay though since after all, the enemy is 'gone'. Indeed, and since SB is about acting, her transformations are really amazing to read/watch since she is very cool and beautiful. Actually, the theme is somewhat about 'fairy tales', it has a feel good feeling to it. The usual complaint though is the slow progress so it is better to read it in volumes rather than chapters.

      That's one. Because of the first couple of pages in chapter 1, I had mistakenly assumed that she will take back the throne and clear her father's name. She even held a sword so I thought she will be a strong warrior-type princess. Unfortunately, as the latest chapter has shown, she is nowhere like that. For her, after a lot of chapters, it was Suwon > her father. I don't like it at all especially her thing with that hairpin before.

      I think it is about the Japanese text on the drawing/characters. Like say, thump thump and the Japanese word is on the character...they want to change it to English so they erase and redraw.

      I give you an example:
      This is their SB scanlation -> https://readms.net/r/skipbeat/270/5882/1
      This is the raw -> http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=skip&flux=1&tid=6136656497&pic_id=c6b0ad014c086e068199feea0c087bf40ad1cb0c&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1&red_tag=d1684417255

      Sorry for the long link. Anyway, the text on the magazine has to be erased and to make it 'smooth', they would have to redraw a part of it to make it seem like it is the original. Like the 420円...they have to change the 円 to yen. They redraw the guy's head on the magazine.

      You can do a comparison on the chapter ^^

      I read that it depends on the scanlator...their preference. Some would want to redraw and change everything to English. Others would just do that sfx...since it is easier and less time.

      True. Blonde hair on Japanese would mean it is dyed.

      Yup. She obviously wanted a 'sign' or perhaps, hopes that he'll go after her once they break up but he didn't. Though, it seems that he is awkward regarding romantic things like how it was in that date so I assumed that he gave the wrong signals to her.

      Ya...I was wondering if it is like that or it was just a coincidence.

      Unrealistic yes but then, this is shoujo so it's possible ^^ Like in this certain love triangle manga, the 'other guy' loves the girl even if she got married and had a kid. He stayed single. 😒

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    8. Oh, you're right.
      The shounen I think I liked is just H×H and especially slam dunk ❤️ hehe.

      Oh, I see. But isn't it kinda rude for those editors to end a manga like that without author having an attention or an end yet? I always thought so. It's kinda unappreciative to the author, and not emotional to the story.

      Oh, so she's actress! I don't really like acting/entertainment stories, hehe. It's why I stopped it, haha, when I found that the guy is an idol. And also I didn't like the art smh πŸ˜… But maybe I'll like it if I'll try it again, it's not like I can't at all read acting stories, etc. Hehe.
      Oh, I don't like slow romance, like those who keep you forever for a kiss, a confession, etc. 😡

      Oh, true, I also thought so, that she'd be strong and all but then πŸ™„. And yes it was so Annoying to me too how she was still liking suwon even though she was thinking that he killed her father.

      Yeahh. Oh, it seems hard as well (as namaiki) especially that magazine on the screen.

      Yess. And kinda to bring attention, hehe.

      Yeahh! Ya true, he's kinda awkward regarding romance, but I think if you really love you'd react subconsciously. :P

      Hm, yeah..

      Haha, I don't like when they do that. And to be honest I don't feel pity for that person more than feeling annoyed, haha.

      Oh right, you did say above that this Mangaka likes SB, do you mean miyuki teacher? πŸ€”

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    9. True. But at times, well, sales aren't improving, I guess. After all, they are running a business. I would imagine that they'll say, I give you this amount of chapters left, finish it by then.

      Ah, the art. It has improved later on. I recall the mangaka mentioning that she'll do her best to draw the 'most popular actor in Japan'. Oh...well, this one is a very, very slow romance so it might not be your preference aside from not into acting stories.

      Yup.

      I think blondes in Japan are usually portrayed as delinquents/'not conforming to the norm'. And, I'm referring to dyed ones. ^^

      True though the question is, did the girl miss the signs? What made her think that way?

      I don't like it either...but it happens. Actually, I prefer if the series show the 'other person' moving on since it gives a more positive message.

      Yes. There was a time when some mangaka are invited to make fan comic of the series for its anniversary. Miyuki is one of them. You can read it here:
      http://reader.shoujosense.com/read/tsurugasans_trouble/en/0/0/page/1

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    10. I assume that she likes SB because she would make a fan comic out of it, right? ^^ Well, even if it is for publication. ^^;;

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    11. Oh, Yup, that's true.
      It's just I would want to make a manga with my own money, and don't make any rival in it, or make every guy have his partner. and I don't care if people will read it/or think it's boring or not, haha πŸ˜‚ well, it's not like I'm into making Manga, just a wish since I'm tired of rivalry, haha.

      This rivalry is going to be the cause for me to stop reading manga, and I think I'm already going this route πŸ™‚

      I see. Oh, is that so.
      But I think I'll try it anyway. Oh, right! Is there an Annoying rivalry/rival like Hakamada in skip beat?

      Yes. Well not just in manga, I mean in real life blond guys aren't my type, haha.

      Indeed. I think the awkwardness, and inexperiencety and immaturity of both though.

      Ah, but why did shouji had a shock/trauma over his ex (dumping him) but Shou didn't ?
      Hm, you know, I think that shouji was really into her (or more like he can't believe a girl got interested in him, so he really wanted to try kind of thing) but I think that Shou Wasn't into his ex at all, so when she left/him he didn't really care or something.

      I really want to know how/why they got together, haha.

      Exactly. "A positive message" And it's not like it's something good/or right anyway.

      Oh, I see.
      It was fun, thanks for sharing 😊
      So is it the general idea about skip beat?

      Ah, is their personalities/characters like that? I mean the girl is fan girl/fascinated by the guy? Please tell me no, I really don't like/got tired of this, haha. And he's not serious.

      Oh yep probably :)

      Oh kat, I got to a conclusion that there are 2 type of extra chapters, one: 'what if' I mean a dream/something didn't happen. (But it helps and kinda related to the series though) And one: a real story/part of the series. Right?

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    12. It is indeed problematic. At times, you write what you want but it doesn't sell and if it is a 'profession' that puts food, etc on the table, you'll have to cater to what the reader wants.

      I see.

      Yes, there's a rival. There's also stolen kiss...twice, iirc.

      Haha, is that so.

      I agree. Shouji is into her. So, I was wondering how come the girl didn't notice it or what did Shouji do to make her think that way. Since she was the one who confessed and everything, I now wonder if it is because he isn't that proactive. Perhaps, he is always waiting for the girl to do the things like, let's go out, she's the one who calls him, etc. It can make one feel that it is a one-sided relationship. What do you think?

      No, it isn't. That is just a made-up scene in one of the arc. Somewhat like suppressed feelings due to their circumstance. The characters are complicated and saying more will be spoilers. ^^;

      Yes, I think so.

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    13. Yeah, so sad.

      Oh, really! Well ya, they're all the same in that ,(

      Yes, I think that's the reason. And the Mangaka mentioned that though. hehe, that's somehow reminds me of Shou and Yuki's relationship, it kinda feels that it's from Shou side. But I think the girl couldn't keep up with that cause she's not that sincere in her feelings towards shouji, like how Shou was with Yuki, that makes her be patient, etc. Or mature enough to understand him (see through him)
      But actually we can't compare because Shou is the guy so it's obvious that he's the one who makes moves, etc. But shouji is the guy yet he didn't do anything and waited for her, for me I would probably do the same as her. Maybe discuss it with him before then see if he can grasp it. If no then I definitely can't be the initiative one, hehe. I really don't like that kind of guys, haha, shy, etc.

      Oh, I see, hehe.

      Oh you know since Google+ stopped, I had to switch to a blogger profile. I didn't exactly know how, haha, and my picture disappeared Then back again, haha.


      I really loved chapter 100's cover, so pretty and special. It's where their love began, their Connection, etc. πŸ˜‡♡ I really love it that the Mangaka draw it as chapter's 100 cover, it's so meaningful ^^♥️ it's even the same plac/door as chapter 1 ♡:) the Mangaka also said that in a tweet, hehe.

      To be honest I expected a dazzling couple cover, but it turned out to be a simple basketball one, and I really like it!:)
      I even read something like that in a Japanese blog, haha, I surprisingly did think the same.

      So happy that Shou got finally chosen, he got chosen because of his hard work not because he's the lead, haha. He never get anything from granted ^-^

      And now I really hope he'll give a great match πŸ™ hehe, I'm imagining a scene of Yuki like in chapter 65 where she was so proud of him, and cried like that, aw, haha ><♡

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    14. Hm...possible. It depends on what she is 'seeing' on Shouji. Like for Shou, even if Yuki is like that, she responds positively at times = there is hope. Thus, patience is needed. If there is no positive/expected response, one might think that one is wasting one's time. Ah, they're a couple for a year, already, right?

      Yup. She was the one making the moves. Maybe she did try to talk to him like in her question about his feelings but he didn't reply properly so it is possible to think it is a lost cause. In a way, it seems like a case of 'knowing what you lost when s/he is gone.'

      Ah, was that the reason? Yup, it seems that google+ is gone.

      Yup though I was hoping for something 'lovey-dovey'/romantic ^^;

      Same here...something more romantic but I guess that is also okay. Somewhat of a 'nostalgia'.

      Yup ^^

      Hm...possible though this isn't an official match yet, right? I'm imaging something like that or more intense when/if they win the Nationals. ^^

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    15. Lol, but then, I thought she would cry when it was announced that he is in. Instead, she is in a 'yes' pose. ^^

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    17. Oh you're right. Ah I don't know really but yep maybe a year. As you pointed that now then it's mean that she actually endured enough.

      Yes, I'm quite wondering on how he didn't answer/deal with a serious question/s like that.

      Oh the reason of what? πŸ˜… Actually that happened just recently, I mean when I was gonna comment here in this section. Cause Google+ gone in April I think.

      Haha, is that so. Well, hope next time ^-^

      Oh, yes, 'nostalgia' and that's why I love it πŸ˜‡
      Ah Impatient Scan did a copy fully redrawn, I really love it. Did you see it ?

      Oh, didn't they mentioned that it's "an official match" ? But yes maybe you are right, hehe.

      I just thought since Shou went through a lot to be recognized then it's meaningful even if it's just a simple match. Hehe, well anyway I think if Shou does well there'll be definitely a good scene, right?

      Lol, I know right. I actually was so surprised that she did such a pose. But I think the Mangaka did it to show that she changed a little now, I mean she can express her happiness normally like that. Rather than cry. What do you think? Cause the previous Yuki can never do such a thing πŸ˜‚

      And I was so surprised when she kissed Shou, haha. but where I got really surprised is when he asked her for another one and she really did it, whoa, haha. And quiet immediately.

      About their promise, I'm sure Yuki will be like "I never promised anything" lol. That if Shou fulfills his promise. ^-^

      And I actually loved what Shou said to Yuki, even if it might be childish but like that it's good :3 because one, the Mangaka showed that Yuki treats that guy Hakamada just in a manager/basketball need. And like that Shou said what's in his heart, and they can understand what each other think, speak more,, better than keep it. ^^

      Oh, so about extra chapter. Namaikizakari will have another one in July. There's a magazine's (the Hana to yume) where some popular series do an extra for summer (Yona and skip beat too I think)
      So it's as we thought, 86,5 wasn't exactly in the Manga time. :3
      Ah I wonder if it'll be a hot extra too, haha. Cause miyuki teacher has been doing hot extras lately. Lol.

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    18. Lol, maybe he was too shocked to answer <- delayed reaction? ^^;

      Maybe they are phasing google+ out gradually?

      Nope.

      They mentioned it is a first year vs second year. The coach is probably figuring whom he'll put in the main team and who are the substitutes for the official games.

      Yup, it's possible ^^

      Indeed. She is expressing herself more naturally and positively ^^ Something like, being part of the team.

      Haha, true. It's good that she is being more responsive.

      I think he will and we'll have a lovey-dovey scene after the game ^^

      True. Communication is somewhat problematic between them since Yuki assumes things and Shou doesn't want to appear weak/inferior.

      I see.

      True, it wasn't.

      Hehe, maybe ^^

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    19. Haha, if it was just one time maybe that's possible. But if it was many times/questions, then 😢

      Yes, though now the phasing is finished.

      Oh, I see.

      Yeahh!

      Haha, you're so sure. To be honest I don't, because I don't know if he can, I mean abilities. And also he did promise her before but he didn't fulfill, hehe. I mean this manga doesn't really go with expectation/goodness.
      And maybe the Mangaka will keep her thing about not making him better yet. ،،3

      True. Though they're improving. well, from Shou's side.
      About Yuki, doesn't she should know him already now so she stop assuming! But I think because this is Yuki, 'a special case' that's Why, what do you think? I mean this is the Mangaka excuse to make it Normal.

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    20. Haha...true. Maybe it was all over and it is only when he went home...he thought, what just happened, did we just break up? Though...given how he missed her and everything, he is still not taking the steps to win her back. Perhaps, that is indeed what is lacking from him...initiative.

      I think this game is crucial for Shou since it might put him in the main team/not as substitute player so he has to show his best. After just sitting on the bench to watch earlier, I'm sure he'll do great this time around. Shizuka is 'winning' to many times already so I think it's time to give Shou a break. ^^

      I guess it is about loving the person for everything even if s/he is like that or not exactly perfect as one would want. It is like, the pros are more than the cons ^^ And yes, hopefully, that person change for the better ^^

      In Yuki's case, it seems that 'bad habits' take time to break. As a manager, isn't that part of her training...that is to assume/anticipate what the others need/think/want?

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    21. Haha, most likely. True. And it showed that he's awkward and all, you see from that date, and the other guys were like "there'll be a girl that will love you as you are" till Yuki snapped on them, haha. So he probably doesn't think he should do efforts and all. And actually part of their problem is 'misunderstanding' because he was worried if he makes advances and she won't like it. That mentioned if you remembered.
      So yes if Shou (and Yuki) step in and help them it would be good. :3

      Oh, yes, I really hope so. �� Haha, exactly! Let him be happy already, haha. Losing many times hurt,, but he never gave up even so, that's amazing. :P

      Ah I'm guessing the cover will be Shou, or Shou and Hakamada �� hehe.

      That's indeed beautiful ^^
      And that's why I told you I liked it when he told her what's in his heart. =P

      True! Yes, that probably what make her like that 'personally' partly.
      But Yuki is also improving too, last time she honestly casually talked about something really viral in her life. :3 and she actually talked hearted many times too. She is just a shy-pride girl, so she needs some reluctantly first, haha. And Shou too.
      Actually I find them interesting like that, hehe.

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    22. True. Don't want to 'scare'/turn off the girl.

      Indeed. Ah, is the girl younger than Shouji or they're in the same year?

      Yup ^^

      Haha...possible. Usually, the cover isn't really related/usually related to the chapter, right?

      Yup.

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    23. Exactly.

      She's younger than him. In the date Shou asked Yuki that the girl have be older than her cause shouji's ex was younger than him so that became a trauma to him, haha.

      most of the time it's related to the chapter, and rarely when it's not related to chapter. Like chapter 69, 87, 91 I remember just those, haha.

      Ah you remember kat that match in the training camp when Shou and Hakamada made that duo play, they didn't even talk it before (the plan) but they just conformed. wow! hehe.

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  16. I like how Shou is so observant and can be the voice of reason when Yuki is doubting herself. :&

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  17. I've got a question about Shou and Yuki, maybe you can help me with, Is it realistic? It seems like fantasy and may be putting the wrong idea in my head for relationship goals... I mean it's so beautiful, do you think its possible to have love like that?

    I don't want to get the wrong idea. I do in a way, i feel a lot over the way Naruse looks for Yuki.

    It has opened my eyes to opportunities I've missed .. And opportunities i will no longer let go, Or run away from! ... Maybe i have some regrets or fears from my past, but i am able to face them head on cause of this story... it moved me that much!

    I am very captured by their relationship... maybe reminds me of something i had but let slip away... πŸ˜… If i was like Naruse and never let go and work so hard, well 🀣

    I don't like mangas with lots of booobs, ahah, i like Namaikizakari so much i want to learn things from it.
    A lot of animes use large boobs and other pretentious sex or action scenes to capture attention but i dont like them. I am mad in love with the way namaikizamari turned out, i never thought i could be so attached to the characters.


    And I like how Naruse gave Yuki a lot time, I mean she had a long time to think about it. and he isn't rushing into things, but taking his time, he respects her so much.


    Is it weird if i find their high difference ridiculously attractive? Haha
    I love the way they look at each other! And the way he grabs her face...and arms. Thud!

    The way he picks her up and holds her cute body is just adorable, She's the perfect size for him! Gaaaaaah! She's such a cutie, and she's tiny and small, so naruse would have no problem holding her like that, in fact i find it extremely attractive, haha.

    I really like the scene where they're kissing but Yuki is kicking at him, lol

    Oof the way Yuki blushes ....She is just so adorable, gaaaaaah!

    And Naruse's smile is AMAZING. He's got like the perfect guy smile. and yuki, the perfect girl. haha.

    I'm guy too, haha.

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    1. I think it is possible, Ryan if you meet the right girl ^^ There will be quarrels, obstacles and stuff but yes, lots of patience, understanding and communication is needed. I think it also has something to do with one's values/priorities.

      Is it too late to court her again?

      Haha...those are mostly shounen which are fan service for guys who usually love boobs and everything. Action scenes...it is rare for shoujo to have them. Though I have seen a real good ones from Tokyo Crazy Paradise ^^

      Yup, that's how it should be if one has found that person one wants to be with throughout one's life. Don't let him/her go...and it is a major plus if s/he loves you equally or more. ^^ Though it is always said to me that it is best if the guy likes the girl more than the girl does.

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    2. Ow You think it's possible :) that made me happy, thank you! :)) Yes I didn't have the patience and understanding that Shou had. Well, I was in high school so I was young. Wait but Shou was a high schooler too, haha. Well, it's not about ages.

      Haha, I think it's too late.
      But I can now go ahead like I told you. Since I was a little scared, and kind of traumatized. But those too gave me life again. :))

      Haha, yes. I actually meant shounen, they're popular than shoujo, and I think more than part of it is for action scenes, etc. Since that bring more attention.

      True!! Haha, I hear that too. What do you think about Shou and Yuki, who love the other more? Haha. Well, Shou loves her so much, but she also does.

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    3. Haha, don't compare yourself with a fictional character. Actually, I'm not sure if there are still many high school lovers who ended up marrying in real life.

      I see. True, we learn, grow and move on...hoping not to make the same mistakes. ^^

      True but there are many varieties now that isn't just action adventure...actually, those are more on seinen. ^^;

      I think it is Shou though perhaps it is because she isn't that 'emotional/passionate' as he is or like the fangirls. =P

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    4. Haha, it's just I want to take it as a role model. But thank you for the cheering, haha. :)

      Yes exactly! :)

      Got it!

      Haha, yes. But for me a girl like Yuki is fine. I can understand why shou fell for her. Haha.

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  18. I'm no longer care of hakamada! Yuki has proven to him she loves Shou. and i think the more times he tries to make a move on Yuki, the more he is going to mess up and make her feel awkward. And it's not going to go anywhere.

    He just pushes himself onto Yuki. He doesn't care what she thinks, he just acts on his own with his own feelings in mind.

    Excuse my language but f** that hakamada guy. He tries to get in between her and Shou, tries to play with Shou's love.. Agh, but he won't go anywhere!

    When he kissed Yuki i almost broke my computer. I was so devestated, i wanted to punch him! If i was Shou i would have been more angry!

    I got that Shou dealt with it in a mature way, but the point didn't get through Hakamada. and I'm sure Shou knows it would be unacceptable to use violence in front of his baby Yuki. Haha.

    Shou knew Yuki would tell him! He trusts her and she trusts him and gaaaaaah...
    Didn't think i could get my stomach twisted for a manga! Haha.

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    1. True...so I do wonder why the mangaka are putting those scenes here...persistently. And, it doesn't help that he is a club member. It is undeniable that they do need him if they pursue the Nationals.

      I agree not to violence since he might ended up being suspended or kicked out. There are other ways to punish him. For me, say, ask some fangirls to swarm him. =P Do something embarrassing...if you read Slam dunk, say 'accidentally' pull down his shorts during practice. See, that would fit the romantic comedy of the series ^^

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    2. Yes, I think for drama! Cause they are indeed not needed and not nice.

      Haha, yes. But the problem he's not being punished by any way. But just keep his thing. I think the Mangaka shouldn't be continuing that love triangle when Yuki and Shou are couple. It's unreasonable. Hope it'll end soon.

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    3. Perhaps but it ruins the mood of the series. In a way, it makes Yuki look bad, don't you think so?

      I agree.

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    4. Ah you're Right, unfortunately. :C I don't know what to say , :C

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    5. Well, let's just hope for the best that it will end soon/no more such scenes.

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    6. Yes I really hope that!!

      By the way, I loved chapter 100, and when yuki kisses Shou wahh so sweet!!!

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  19. I can't stand Hakamada *-* I mean just go and ask another manager or the coach to encourage you. Agh, he asks Yuki not because she's the manger, god he's so annoying *-* Or be a man and get your own Girlfriend who'll encourage you, stop forcing yourself on Yuki like a brat, stop forcing yourself on someone else's girlfriend, god! It is cringe! *_*

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    2. Yes but he shouldn't do what he wants, he always asks her and touches her as he please like she doesn't have a boyfriend. He knows he shouldn't but just does it and never stop himself, I hate that about him! god he's shameless! I wouldn't even dare to look to my crush let alone be that pushy and touchy with him ESPECIALLY if he has a partner! That's low! *_*

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  20. Ahh When Yuki pumped her fist secretly cause she was excited naruse was gonna play, was so cute. Haha
    And also i notice they are still wearing their promise rings.

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    1. Yup, Kuan. Hehe, I thought she'll be moved to tears that his hard work paid off ^^;;

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    2. Maybe she'll let that to letter when he will pull up a good play! ^__^

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    3. Perhaps then I remembered, this is just a practice game, right? Tears might probably for something big like winning championships/Nationals?

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    4. Ah maybe. Well I'm kinda excited for that match though! ^=^

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    5. =)

      Oh ya...is that match freshmen vs sophomores or mixed?

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    6. Ah I think it's mixed. I'm wishing for the best for Shou.

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    7. I'm sure he'll get the highest points ^^

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  21. Yuki communicated with dogs like I socialize with people. Haha. Well, that 'dog scene' was so freaking cute. I actually wouldn't expect her to say such a thing to a dog. Haha

    I just LOVE Shou's surprised face! >♡< and even more that laughing face of him ❤️ It's strange how can other people's laughing faces make you smile or laugh too πŸ’–

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    1. Heheh...out of curiosity, what do you expect her to say? Thinking about it, I'm not sure I know what to do in that situation. ^^;

      =)

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    2. Haha, you're right, especially since she's not good with dogs. But I mean it's weird to talk to a dog like that! But that was indeed cute, it's like she just let herself got emotional with a dog and telling it passionately "that belongs to someone really important to me", I got that the Mangaka did it to show up how much she's happy and touched that Shou got chosen that it led to that awkward yet so sweet moment (confession) :❤️

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    3. Haha, true.

      Maybe I'm thinking of something else...dark I mean, if I'm not good with dogs and Shou's dog reacts that way to me, wouldn't be the first thing in one's mind is that dog might bite you? What if trying to get the uniform and I got attacked...was it worth it? πŸ˜…

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    4. Haha, true. so because it's a uniform and it's Shou's she just risked :❤️ fortunately Shou came, heheh

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  22. It's nice to see Yuki becoming herself and crawling out of her protective shell. Naruse is right there to encourage her along. They are the cutest, sweetest, and most sincere couple πŸ’“πŸ’“πŸ’“. I love them so much.

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  23. Shou finally got chosen yay I'm extremely happy for him :)
    But you see when they called him, His face is the best, Like ok I wasn’t nervous or really trying to get this. 🀣

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    1. Yup, Dara ^^

      Indeed...hm...perhaps, he expected it?

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    2. Oh, you think so! I actually don't, haha, he actually was sitting there playing with his nails not expecting at all that they'll call him, haha. But you know he is just like that doesn't like to show how much he works or that he's nervous, etc

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    3. he was the last one 😭😩 so I was worried for a second there.
      I wanna see him win over and over hehehe

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    4. I get that impression.

      True.

      I think they'll finally win the Nationals ^^

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    5. Oh if you mean winning over Shizuka in this match to get his reward from Yuki...yes, I think he'll definitely win ^^

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    6. Oh, I didn't mean that but generally, haha, but yes im dying for his winning in this match! 🀩

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    7. Yup and if he wins, we get some lovey-dovey ^^

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    8. Yess! We'll get another level lovey-dovey, haha. Imagine Shou doing well and Yuki gives him a sweet reward, aha double happiness!!

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    9. Yup...in one chapter or one chapter after the other?

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    10. Oh what do you mean? πŸ˜… If the match + that lovey-dovey would be both in the one/next chapter?

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  24. 100 chapters!! This means Shou deserves to have the good things! He finally added to the official roster for collegiate basketball tournaments. Yuki is definitely proud of her boyfriend. =)♡
    I love how Yuki unleashed the girlfriend card when she realized that Shou is moping :& Shou can't be any happier (and he can't stop wanting for more) :&<3
    My favorite moment was Yuki telling Shou that "manager Yuki is different from girlfriend Yuki because "girlfriend Yuki" only cheers for him 😍😍

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  25. I really liked this manga back when it began, but now.., I mean It has cute moments, and yet there's some moments that irritate me. And so sad about what the author does to Yuki. (And also Shou and Hakamada, who I thought could have turned out better - maybe work on his and Naruse's friendship or something)
    Still my favorite. Just pointed out my frustration on somethings.

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  26. These two are my favorite Couple. But Yuki doesn't have boundaries, I know that is just the way she is. The hugs, kiss from hakamada are clearly one sided and not once has she initiated or reciprocated his advances. Im not saying she isn't in fault, Naruse warned her many times that hakamada has feelings for her but she denies it so yeah she should trust him more, which led to hakamada kissing her. Hakamada kissed her because it was clear to him she never saw him as a man and he exploded, which i think yuki should be more mad at him for. But they are on the same team so its not like she can avoid hakamada.

    So Yuki needs a REAL rival to give her a reality check, so she knows how Naruse feels all this time. Not the random girls that cheer for him, im talking about a real threat to Yuki.

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    1. True, Estevan. Somehow, I think it would be better if she draw the line even if they are in the same team and everything. After all, there are just some things that shouldn't be done to someone who already has a bf/gf.

      Hm...ex-girlfriend? Though I don't get the impression that his ex would do the stuff that Shizuka does to Yuki. ^^;;

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    2. Yes you're indeed true. Hugs, etc, aren't a manager job.

      Ah you pointed out something new and yup I think you're right. Say not everyone is like Hakamada. or that Naruse would be passive as well and let her do these stuff to him.

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    3. Yup.

      Perhaps, a different way of realizing it. Say, Fuuka telling her about a similar experience and Yuki would realize why it isn't proper.

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    4. Ah anything that help. Because her keeps getting those touches isn't nice. Well let's just hope and see.

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  27. Hakamada clearly doesn't respect Yuki, or her relationship. He goes on as he wants. Doesn't help that she's not really drawing a clear enough line there. Especially since she knows. It's not like she's oblivious to his intentions, he's made them clear before. But she hasn't rebuffed him strongly enough.
    I mean when you're in a committed relationship and this guy kisses you, you need to shut that down strongly. She's still the manager of his club, but she should treat him more coldly, when he comes to her like a beat dog, looking for approval. Go talk to another manager or the coach for f** sake. And I wouldn't be caught alone with that dude in a room anymore. He comes in, I leave.

    Maybe then he gets that the door is closed and moves on from his crush or whatever.

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    1. True, Keixane.

      Haha...well, since he was given a free pass, he'll take this opportunity with her and she obliged. Doing those would be unlike of Yuki but I'm wondering though how come she didn't analyze or something why he needs her approval...I mean like what she did with Suwa.

      Yes, most likely if Yuki isn't too nice and act like nothing happened.

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    2. You mean approval to his game, like advice/encouragement? That make me think that she doesn't really care for him, I mean from her own or deep (like with suwa) he's always the one asking her, so she just casually respond. Maybe he's not that interesting to her, or effected her, to analyze or something. But yes if she analyze it would be better, maybe she would understand that he just lack girls/love so he just crushed on the first girl he met.

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    3. Yes, like for her to think, is it a boost of self-confidence because it is from the girl he likes? As you've mentioned, she didn't say, why me and not the other manager? Though, she might be so polite that she won't say that and just do as he says to make him happy...which she did. No big deal for her.

      Well, if she thought of that, she would realize that all of his interactions with her is not 'pure/simply basketball related' rather, it is because 'he's in love with her' which may cause someone to become jealous/misunderstand.

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    4. Yes. Well she does it to help him (as a manager) rather than make him 'happy' (personal)
      But thinking about it, it was different with suwa, she actually had data/information about him (his ex told them their story, it where/when Yuki started to analyze) but with Hakamada she actually doesn't know anything about him. (And we as well) and also suwa's confession was questionable, like "with you I can change" so Yuki thought that he just needs a motivation, a change to start with. But Hakamada made it just a simple love confession/thing.

      But actually I think the author lets things slip even if doesn't look realistic just to keep him as a rival, otherwise, I mean if she makes Yuki that perspective rival Hakamada won't even exist. So they always make female lead like that. What do you think?

      Exactly. Make me think that she doesn't really care about Shou's feelings. She kinda literally goes with what she thinks. And not just with Shou but with everyone. Like, she thinks she is the right one (always) what do you think about that? I mean Maybe it's just me!

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    6. And what I dislike about her is that she always repeats the same mistakes. with Shou. and others guys too. She doesn't learn.

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    7. True. Still I get the impression that Shizuka is very 'simplistic' that it is very easy to guess his motives. It pretty much shows in his expressions and actions.

      Most likely. She is making him a 'rival' when technically, he isn't a real rival and his chances are already zero. I would prefer that she stick to the basketball rivalry and quit the romantic rivalry. Maybe because this is shoujo so there has to be that romantic rivalry with jealous to force the progress of the relationship.

      About always being right...well, she has always been like that and she is always right like in dealing with her siblings and as the manager. I would think that she is already 'programmed' that way. Like, this is what most likely will happen and this is what is needed/must be done. Whatever it was, it happens exactly like how she thought it would be.

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  28. Chapter was such a good chapter!!

    And the cover is indeed cute, Like the start and now, and they’re still together, playing basketball but now they love each other πŸ™ˆπŸ˜πŸ’ž

    The smirk on Shou's face, haha he knows she loves him.
    And the change in Yuki expression too, like so tough on Ch 1 and caring on ch 100! So emotional!πŸ’•

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  29. I love both Shou and Yuki so much that I want to name my child before them.., but Estevan has a point there..Yuki should have a real rival for her to understand the feeling of threat..like how Shou feels whenever Hakamada or other men is around..this may sound a little mean but Yuki feels so secured (i dont know if it's the right term) that she seldom takes Shou's feelings for granted..not that she never thinks of how he feels but the feeling of "exclusive" for only one person..ugh..i can't express my feelings clearly πŸ˜£πŸ˜–

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    1. Rice, is it about Yuki not knowing the feeling of jealousy? If it is the 'old Yuki', I would expect her to logically think that 'it's nothing' because Shou loves only her. Perhaps, that's what she is thinking...Shou should be thinking like that, too, after all, he is her love and everything. She told him, and all those lovey-dovey so what is there to be insecure about?

      But, I guess, in order for her to know how he is feeling is for her to also experience it. That is, if she feels the same way he does when it happens.

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  30. YAY, 100th chapter and what a chapter!! I loved it!!! I'm so happy to see how Shou and Yuki's relationship has grown and how they know what makes each other strive to be the best they can be. It's also sooo cute and sweet how they act toward each other. They are really getting to know each other more intimate and on a personal/loving level as a couple. They are finding out what it takes to inspire each other in such an individual and intimate manner. They are my favorite couple, πŸ’–

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  31. Hope nothing bad happens that will tampered with Shou's mood and concentration. Because Everytime he is going to play a match or has something in basketball he'd be distressed. >(( before the Nationals's match that annoying Hakamada confessed to Yuki publicly before him :v when he just entered the club in college he had a distress caused by Suwa :v in the training camp where he had to focus and all, that thing with Hakamada happened. And even now when he was going to Yuki to share his happiness with her that he got a uniform he found her praising his rival. :(( Poor Shou, he always experiences hurtful things, but it's fine since he's the guy, if it was Yuki it'd be a big deal *-* and don't tell me not right, because girls are so biased (more feely) with girls in manga *-*
    But this time it went well since they talked and and all :))

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