From the looks of it, it’s Momiji’s death scene. Unless, she’ll be like a lotus who’ll be reborn. And, Kyouko is indeed channeling her love for Ren in acting out the scene. The last narration is quite similar to what she told Lory wherein she’ll leave the one she loves to the woman who can take care of him.
I think Jouji was moved by it = blurry picture = teary-eyed. Well, since aesthetics are important wherein it has to be a beautiful death scene with a close up, they would have to reshoot it. I wonder if there is more to Kyouko’s expression when it was mentioned that Leo is cosplaying Tuxedo Knight. Was it just plain surprise or because she likes the theme?
The last part seems unnecessary wherein Leo teases/praises Yuki by using idioms which are usually used to describe women. Of course, that would irk Yuki. Is that what should he do if he wants to borrow Kyouko? ^^;
hmmm, well he got her information out of Yuki ^^
ReplyDeleteWere you able to read the english version from the link I had previously sent you? When I saw Kyouko's expression I thought it was more of that mask where he hides her true feelings because she is trying to hide that she knows who it is and her surprise that he came to this set.
I thought that part was placed there to show how close these people are, I think sort of like the unknown circle of producer/directors that are very interactive and close that if you catch eyes of one of them then they will all get you to the top. In this case, Kyouko is the only one who has been breaking ground and catching these types of people's eyes which will boost her career compared to others. If you remember Chidori was upset because of how fast Kyouko was getting recognized and moving up the fame ladder before too, so maybe sensei is putting this out to show how she is moving up the ladder faster than others.
Hehe, yup, El4n1 ^^
DeleteYes. Thanks very much for it. ^^ I just random checked it in case she updated it. ^^
'I thought it was more of that mask where he hides her true feelings' <- I got confused. Are you talking about Ren or Leo? Hm...it shouldn't be a surprise because he saw him with Yuki, and Yuki is connected to her drama. She could have thought of it like 'dropped by to say hello'. She repeated 'Tuxedo Knight' so I thought it is about the cosplay. I'm actually not sure if she can connect that cosplay as related to Kanae's audition though.
I agree with you but I'm not referring to that. It's more on the idioms like 'Ryosai Kenbo, Naijo no Kou, Yamato Nadeshiko' It made me think if the author is alluding to BL. 😅 Perhaps, it is just for jokes that Leo isn't good with idioms. Been seeing that lately in kdramas. ^^;
Lol, perhaps, I'm just subconsciously thinking, don't waste previous few pages on that...give us a better cliffhanger or something. Speaking of cliffhanger, do you think that last part is 'end of arc'?
Kyouko, remember when she was hiding her true intentions from Kanae, like when she wanted her to join Love Me or when she was trying to hide her feelings for Ren. I think she is smart enough to have noticed they are talking about the director and trying to hide that she knows anything about his true identity, she was acting like who are you talking about while she knew perfectly who it was.
DeleteLol I thought the same but then I thought this is not that type f manga so maybe its just a tease to show how close they are.
hmmm, it might be or there may be a little left over/transition to it. It was hard to say, we saw the last scene of the movie even though the shooting is not complete, we now know that there are people on the U.S. side that want her, and we know that Kanae and Ren are going to go to U.S. My thought was maybe it is about time B.J.'s movie to be airing and then the commotion from that start. I just wonder if anyone is going to ever find out on that set that it was Kyouko who was Setsu or not and what would be happening on that front, and what would be Kyouko's next project. I was also thinking maybe there would be an episode where Kyouko would be a guest at the show she is acting as Bo now, and how that would go. There are so many things I want to see or have answered or resolved that I cannot count them
Ah, I see. Okay, I got it. ^^ When you mentioned about wanting Kanae to join Love Me, I suddenly remembered the lil demon Kyoukos. I miss them. ^^;
DeleteHehe, yes. I actually wondered if there are fanfics about the two or it will lead into that because of that scene.
Indeed. Though it was mentioned that they are shooting the future scenes/not in sequence due to the season. I tend to think that there will be a new arc if the cliffhanger isn't that hanging enough like after Lory met with Kyouko on White Day, iirc. After that looking in the globe that Kyouko will be big, the next scene is suddenly in Guam.
Ah yes, the BJ movie. That's possible. About Setsu, I don't think they'll know or it isn't likely important because those who saw her are limited to the people who have anything to do with the BJ movie. Iirc, currently, they aren't involved in any of the current productions that our leads are going to join.
I'm not sure how can she be a guest in that show unless they hired someone else to be Bo. Regarding Kyouko's next project...isn't it Project Route? I'm actually wondering why 'borrow' was mentioned. Is it because Kyouko will have to do both projects simultaneously?
I wondered about "borrow" too, I wonder if Yuki is pleased enough that he might want to do more projects with Kyouko in them, like next project or something and this guy already knows that so he said he wants to borrow her. I don't know if she will be part of Project Route. Didn't Yuki said that project is already fully cast? If Kyouko is to join it would be either a new character or someone needs to be kicked out.... but who? If it is based on a novel/comic and they are not including someone because they did not find the perfect fit, is Kyouko that missing person that they did not want to include? As always so many possibilities and questions.
DeleteI was thinking since the show Bo is at brings guests on, maybe Kyouko would be requested by fans and maybe they would decide to do an episode with her out of her suit and put someone else in as Bo but that is just wishful thinking.
With BJ, I was thinking after it is revealed he was Ren, then everyone from the set is going to be curious as to who it was and there is a chance rumors will start that would indicate that person was his lover or something because of the way she acted.... so there will be chaos if something like that happens.
Aw, I miss them too, they were adorable and very effective ^^ I should maybe think about reading it one more time when it gets closer to the next volume release ^^
Yes, 'at this time', it is fully cast. Because of that emphasis, I think it could mean that it won't be later on so I'm guessing someone will be booted out or maybe some sort of arrangement will be made. Or perhaps, as you mentioned add a new character which will cause delays due to re-writing of the script.
DeleteAs to who...I'm guessing either Kanae or Kimiko. But then, it might be some unknown. The thing is, there might be some 'bad blood' from whoever got booted out. It makes me wonder how this is done in real life though. Is it okay as long as there is no contract yet/not publicized yet?
Ah, I see. I do wonder what kind of guests do they usually get. Iirc, Ren hasn't guested in the show, right?
I see. Well, from the cast and staff, they don't seem to be the gossipy types. ^^; Oh, maybe they can pass it as 'Love Me' mission.
Yup...they were fun. Hehe, do you think they are turning into angels these days? ^^
I don't think it will be someone we know, there might be someone else, I definitely think that Kanae will not be booted. I think if Kyouko joins, it will be so that she can act alongside her best friend.
DeleteThe thing with the show with Bo is that we have no idea if Ren has been there or not yet, or if he will be, or maybe they will have Ren and Kyouko together... that'll be fun for Sho.
Not that the cast will talk to others but we both know there are at least 2 people who were curious about Setsu and BJ, now if they find out it was Ren, they would definitely want to know who it is and if it is a love me thing then there are only 3 people there, so they might want to hide it. If they say temp manager, the thoughts will go to the love me member too so it is messy all over.
Yes, especially if it is the last big drama for the series.
DeleteTrue...though it isn't the same if Bo isn't Kyouko, right? I think for them to be in one project together would be good enough to drive Shou jealous. Hm...speaking of Shou, any chance that he'll be singing for PR as part of the ost? ^^
Hm...but they can pass it like acting training for Kyouko, right? So that they won't imagine more to it...haha, even if they might not buy it.
Let's say, they found out that it is Kyouko. What were you thinking of the implication? They'll tell reporters about it?
On the Bo side, well there was the birthday party where Bo was present too, so I think there is someone they can use as substitute. I wonder if there will ever be a revealing that she was Bo all along.
DeleteNot Sho but maybe the Beagle? They moved to U.S. right?
I am sure there are many Ren super fans on that set too, so I was thinking that rumors would start about the whole thing even if it was acting. Remember, Kyouko had a little bit of a backlash. There is also the rumor of her having Yashiro as manager right? so it is either going to be that something between them even if it is one sided on Kyouko's part or that she is something big that they are preparing to show the world.
But then again I am not sure how that would affect either of them with now the shield of pretense that Ren is dating.
Hm...do you think Ren will find out without Kyouko telling him?
DeleteYes, but didn't Sho also went overseas? I'm thinking that if this is going towards the finale, the author has to insert Shou back in some way. I mean, after the big reveals and resolution of Ren's past, will the series continue on with just the focus on Shou-Kyouko issue?
Ren's super fans in the BJ film set? I think it is easy to do an alibi with that. Aside from the fake lover, they can say that it is a Love Me mission and they are from the same company...it is just senpai-kouhai type of thing. And well, they might easily dismiss it like there's no way Ren would date someone like Kyouko kind of thing. ^^; Well, that is being fans who might ship a certain ideal with their idols.
I think she will tell him when he tells her about Korn.
DeleteWasn't it just a shoot? I don't think Sho moved his base overseas. I feel like it is going to be chaotic ending with everyone and everything happening at once.
Well his fans are crazy so lets hope it goes easy, but I think Kyouko needs to be respected to be accepted by the super crazy fans.
I see.
DeleteHm...I don't remember but maybe, he'll stay longer? Hehe, is that so? Reminds me of One Piece, so many characters and things happening as the lead approaches his goal.
Maybe, after the film comes out, there would be previews of Lotus which can improve fans perception of Kyouko? ^^
oh this is quick - and rather short as well :D
ReplyDeleteI am not sure Kyouko knows of Leonards cosplaying habit, does she? Iirc even Yashiro seemed surprised during Ren's test too, so it must have been her usual Fairy reactions (it would be very normal knowing her, and her reaction into princey kind of character).
I must say the interaction between Leo and Kuro has been very amusing. They seemed to be close, if not very close to me. I wonder if we will get some dig into how they see of each other.
Ah I can't wait to see the chapter already lol.
Yup, Junior.
DeleteI don't remember if she knew though she might have thought he must be in disguise or something since his real face is hinted by Yuki as top secret. Hehe, true. Hm...it makes me wonder if she realized that he was dressed like that during the Kanae meeting.
Haha, true. I get the impression that for Yuki, he is the 'babysitter'/mother figure of the annoying clueless kid.
ah I found it somewhere. So Kyouko deducted correctly that it was Leonard, but somehow she's kind of spacing out when Tuxedo sama being mentioned. It's like she's having some Eureka moment or something to me, unless somehow Kyouko doesn't know the Tuxedo Knight character.
DeleteAh the banter is actually better than I expected lol. Kuresaki looked really pissed off but will they really duke it out there and then? It would be amusing if Leonard with his cosplay and Kuresaki with his neat suit get into a fist-fight, though maybe I should just keep that in my imaginary world lol.
Yes, and her expression seems weird. Was it because of what you mentioned or she couldn't believe someone cosplaying that kind of character or that is related to Kanae's audition.
DeleteTrue but the choice of idioms...it makes me think that it is alluding to BL. Or, the author couldn't think of anything else so put in that filler-ish dialogue. So, is that end of arc?
Hm...fist fights? I think they are more on weapon type of fighters. ^^; In a way, isn't it like East [Japanese] vs West? If you look at the weapons drawn, it is like samurai vs barbarians. If it is fists, somehow I think Yuki can easily be defeated due to Leo's body built. ^^
hmm I see. If it's about Kanae, it kinda make sense - maybe she thought Kanae was tested as Sailor Moon or something lol.
Deleteyeah, I guess you're right in that those part is just the author having bit of fun with Kuresaki. He's always so serious so having Leo teasing him (intentionally or not) is kinda refreshing. It is also a fitting chapter for end of Lotus in the Mud arc imo. There's part in me that wanted to see the whole show (>.<). I'm feeling like those samurais extra now xD.
haha I agree that physically Leo should dominate the fight, though we wouldn't get into it anyway. The author is free to choose the form of fight too, like in some manga I have seen these kind of confrontation ended up with a game of go between the sides so anything is possible (should it get there).
Hehe, and perhaps, she'll ask her about it?
DeleteSpeaking of 'end', we didn't get to kind of know the ending for Dark Moon, right?
Haha...or to simply things maybe children-type games like gakenpon or hehe, the ones in a popular kdrama. ^^
Lol probably she will have that 'melty' face of excitement that she had when she first saw Kanae as Midori during the audition.
DeleteAh yeah. Neither does her subsequent drama. But I like it that the author put effort to these parts of Kyouko's work, kinda reminding me of Bakuman.
yup :D. Anyway the most important thing about that bits was that Yuki gave Leonard Kyouko's info, though I wonder if he gave him her LoveMe profile lol - I think this should confirm her involvement in PR. I'm getting more and more excited about it now!
Haha, I think her reaction would be more than that because Kanae will be a knight = her fave genre.
DeleteYup.
Oh, speaking of that, why do you think he needs her profile? Is it to check her previous works in order to make a role for her? Or what role to give her?
Yes, and I think PR would the be reason to go to US.
It is sort of introductory imo, since it would be weird if Kuresaki should describe what kind of actrees Kyouko is personally. Actually I am not sure what kind of profile Kuresaki gave Leonard. I think the Love Me profile should only have the most basic info about Kyouko, though I would expect that Kuresaki would give Leonard more detailed info about Kyouko and her works as actrees at the very least, so Leonard would be able to further assess her.
DeleteYeah I should expect that since Cedric is involved. Maybe part of me really doesn't want SB to end, though in the other hand I also yearn to see Kyouko's reunion with Kuon ^^
hmm regarding what roles to give, it is hard to tell really. I would say unless some big shot steps in and make suggestion (lory or to lesser possibility Duris), I doubt Leonard would add a specific role just to accommodate Kyouko. But if he based her role on her previous work, then it might be another antagonist role xD.
DeleteBut what do you think of possibility that Lory make PR as Kyouko's international breakout? I think PR is a fitting moment for it. And knowing him there would be much fanfare and prestige as how he would do things.
True. I'm just thinking that just seeing her in action, Kyouko already shown her ability and 'sold herself' to Leo that he wants to 'borrow' her. So, what's the profile for? But then, I do recall Yuki asking about it later on from Kyouko during the audition. So like, he wants to check out the dramas she was in before? Do directors/producers need detail info about their actors/actresses....like there's no scandals which might be an issue later on?
DeleteTrue...but then, it won't end anytime soon.
Oh...antagonist, so maybe opposite to Kanae's role? I'm thinking that PR is about two or more rivaling countries. And perhaps, Cedric belongs to Kanae's group? Royalty-type. Oh, do you think Cedric is playing a protagonist role? I'm thinking he is and I don't quite think that he auditioned for the role. He doesn't seem to be the type who would do that given his feeling of superiority.
It's possible. Actually, all three of them...ah, is Ren as Kuon before considered 'international' just because he was in US shows/movie before? Hm...I suddenly wondered about that...if they do have a breakout and will start working in US. They'll get a new agency, right?
Now that you mention it, Love-Me member looked quite 'scandalous' to Kuresaki at first lol. I'm not sure about the custom, but it is normal to avoid scandalous actrees/ actors for a big project like PR I think.
DeleteI'm just imagining the possibility lol. Plot aside, since it is a joint project Japan-US don't you think a dual protagonists is possible? Like one from Japan and one from US. I agree that Cedric would most definitely be one of , if not, the protagonist. But surely they won't make a joint project without giving the Japan side equally important roles.
Oh but, if it is a Japan vs US, then Kyouko might fit right in. Cause if we take Cedric side as protagonist, then Ren/ Kuon will be the rival/ sort of antagonist. If we relate it to Heisenberg, maybe Kyouko will be one who do her best to cancel Heisenberg being married off.
I'm not sure tbh. For Kuu, it seems like he did move to US completely. If they do, I think they would get new agencies (since LME is basing their operation in Japan). Though I'm not a US resident myself so I don't know about the regulation nor I know about the way it is in the movie/ entertainment industry. I just wonder if Yashiro can stay as their manager (unlikely though), it just doesn't feel right to have anyone else in the position lol.
Yes, I think so because the sales/ratings might be affected by 'cancel culture'. Hm...and what if they knew about Ren's real identity and past? Won't that be a bigger problem? I mean, compared to that, being a Love Me member is quite tame.
DeleteEqually important roles...yes, but dual protagonists. I don't think so, most likely antagonists. If protagonists, Cedric would definitely be the central and others supporting. Unless, it is an ensemble type of movie. I'm just thinking that Cedric doesn't seem the type who would agree to be a 'dual protagonist' with someone who might outshine him. But then, he might think that it isn't possible if he thinks others are inferior to him.
Yes, something like that.
Haha, true. I think they would need new agencies because Kuu is no longer under LME, right? But does work with LME when he was in Japan. Ya, it seems unlikely for Yashiro. Well, if Kyouko will continue to build her resume in Japan, he'll most likely continue being her manager.
Hmm we still only know bits of what make Kuon's past. Like Rick's incident for example. We know for one that Ren blamed himself for it. But how did the world see it? And to be frank it's not like he can continue to hide forever once he enter US film industry again - also from Lorry's conversations with Kuu/ Sarah and later Duris, he does plan for Kuon comeback, instead of having him staying Ren.
DeleteKyouko being in PR is good adver for LoveMe section though lol. Plus Kanae is there already. I wonder if they will continue to grow and have more members.
Ah yeah. Cedric does seem to be a narcistic type lol.
Hmm I think Kyouko will stay in Japan for a while, regardless of PR being a success or not. You don't just go abroad without planning after all, and I'd assume she has job to do in Japan still. I believe she will eventually go and live in US much like Kuu/ Sarah in the end - much like an epilogue thing.
I think at that time, it wasn't a big issue or else, Kyouko would have heard about the 'controversy' regarding Kuu's son when he came back. There was no news regarding that. Interestingly, Kyouko isn't curious enough to like search on the internet or something regarding his son. Was it a secret/privacy thing?
DeleteThe thing is Cedric knew and can twist things to ruin Ren's reputation especially if he leaks the news first to reporters. But then, maybe he'll keep his mouth shut since this also involves him and it might backfire = he'll be the one with a ruined reputation. Hm...do you think the author will go with that? Involve reporters about Ren's past or just resolve it quietly behind the scenes.? I think it would be the latter.
I think it can grow and have more members = open for actors who have potentials but slightly lacking in...'love'. Though, the potential issue there is bullying, I think. The others tend to bully/look down/take advantage of Love Me members and what if they aren't as strong as the current three members. I think that when the series ends, the three would have graduated from Love Me.
Yes. So, there might be a long distance relationship for the couple before uniting later on? In other shoujos, the usual cause for that is going to college and the finale is the reunion.
Hmm she doesn't know Sarah too (implying that she hasn't seen her as Kuu's wife), I guess she didn't try to look Kuu's family info up on the net. As for the reason, my guess is as good as yours at the very best lol.
DeleteI don't think Cedric would leak that. Their rivalry make sense when they were both in the US. But now Ren is coming from a Japan side on a joint project, so he shouldn't take such risk. Hmm, what do you think about Cedric trying to agitate Ren like Mura-something did during the BJ project? I think rather than leaking about his past as Kuon, he'd better off with destroying Ren's current image by trying to trigger Ren's inner demon.
Ah you're right. Also, I think Love-Me Section will not be the same without Kyouko, after all she has helped her fellow members out quite significantly and they were also drawn in by her (Kanae forcefully, while Amammiya unintentionally).
Ah I see. With Duris promoting Ren, it is very likely he will go ahead of Kyouko after all.
That's right. Usually, famous people like Kuu, one would know, at least, the wife - celebrity couple. Children, can be kept hidden for privacy reasons. But then, Sarah might be in disguise, right?
DeleteThat's possible. Ah, didn't he already calmed down his inner demons = won't beat up people again after the Guam arc? I'm thinking that Cedric is like Kimiko who would do things out of the limelight. Cedric got a gang to beat Kuon up. Kimiko attempted to throw Kyouko off a building. They tend to care about their images so they won't do anything bad in public, and most likely during shoots.
Speaking of image, you made me wonder if Ren would keep the Ren persona once he goes back to the US. Won't the fans be angry over the fake Ren image?
Yup.
Ya. If ever, I wonder if they'll be lovers before he leaves or will keep the present relationship until they are reunited. In other shoujo, they usually become lovers.
Ah I have no idea, but I guess it's normal for celebrities couple to have wanted some privacies.
DeleteAh you're right that Ren should have calmed down - even Sarah judged that he would be fine even if he would be facing Cedric. I agree that we shouldn't expect conflict arise from simple provocation of the past then.
Hmm, Kuu ditched his Japanese persona when he went to US for one. Iirc that was the initial goal for Kuon as well - Lorry invited him to reinvent himself in Japan so he could build his career all over again. I feel it's more like for Kuon to finally come back as Kuon, after he establish himself in his persona. I might be wrong though :P
Are you implying that they will make public their relationship? It's hard to say. Normally I think celebrities would like to hide that kind of stuff to avoid unnecessary rumors. Ah also didn't Ren say that he would like to keep their relationship as it is until he reach his goal? That doesn't mean it won't leak though. Kana (the current Ren's fake lover) might guess who Ren's real lover is. Also Kyouko is holding Ren's necklace, and by God know what accident, it may reveal their relationship.
Hmm how do you think their relationship will be as lover? Will Kyouko see him as Ren or Kuon? Ah maybe she would prefer Ren. Cause Kuon is a playboy lol.
Yes, but I'm thinking more on when there are award ceremonies, even as guest, doesn't a celebrity always bring one's spouse or even partner in the event? Especially if the said spouse/partner is also a well-known celebrity/person? Hehe, that's basically how I know that this hollywood star's spouse is this and that. That is in line with red carpet publicity as to who went and what outfit they wore.
DeleteFrom the publicity in Kuu's return to Japan, he is popular, right? Won't it be odd if no one knew who he married while in the US? Or perhaps, they don't know what she looks like? Anyway, I guess that is something that shouldn't be overthink since the author might have overlooked it.
True, but it is more of change of name, right? Okay, he probably also dyed his hair but essentially, they know he is Japanese who changed his name when he started in the US. Okay, is it a change of name or using his real name? ^^;
Ren is different because it is a total 'persona/image' change. I guess I'm thinking more on what the Japanese audience would think. Would it be like, 'oh, it's okay and he's cooler than 'Ren' or 'we were deceived because we actually thought that he is this and that'? Hm...for US/international audience, I guess they couldn't careless as long as he is good in acting.
Is Ren going for persona change like what some celebrities do like change name like the Prince singer to a symbol? For local, it is a change of name and persona when certain celebrity changed from male to female because of different gender orientation?
No, I mean, in private that they are lovers. Right now, there is just knowledge that they like each other, that's it. Basically, make it official but in secret since they are concentrating on their careers and probably doesn't want their relationship to be on the spotlight instead of their work.
I was mentioning that because in other shoujo, being officially together/proposal or at times 'have sex' is some sort of security that 'they'll be together in the end' and 'don't look /go out with other people' while they're in a long distance relationship. But then, Ren already gave a jewelry to her so I guess that is some sort of commitment. ^^;
I'm just wondering if the author will go that route. The alternative is, no commitment and if after we accomplish our personal goal and we still like each other even if we met other people including opposite sex, then let's be together = fate. Haha, or we can say they did that already if we count the childhood meeting? He had other lovers and she had Shou.
I think Kyouko already know that Ren was a playboy. Iirc, that is while he was having difficulty with Dark Moon. It is perhaps to his advantage that he also didn't know true love and only knew it when he fell for a younger girl who turned out to be her. ^^
I cannot quite remember if there were scenes wherein we get a glimpse of what they'll be like in relationship as in their true selves. But through acting, they already showed it in Heel siblings, one-sided in some ways in Dark Moon, and the role playing in Guam. Haha, I'm not sure it will be the same though. ^^;
Ah yeah, and there is possibility it would happen at PR premiere too. It will be very cool. Just like how it was with Dark Moon finale, when they got interviewed together.
ReplyDeleteHmm, I can only think that 'Sarah' doesn't work in Japan so she is not that famous and rarely talked about. Models are not movie stars after all, normal people might know foreign movie stars but may know little about models. Heck I am not even that familiar with top models in my country lol.
Ah that is actually an interesting point. I can only say its Kuu's eccentricity lol. I thought he talked about it during the time he was in Japan, but I am not sure - as to what significance it has in him abandoning his Japanese career name.
It is kinda curious what the public reaction will be, considering that the Ren that is a persona, has another persona in BJ lol. Anyway, it is true that if Ren's past as Kuon is revealed, it would affect Ren's image. Well nothing is set in stone. Ren has all the choices to remain Ren or revert back to being Kuon. Personally I'd like to see him back as Kuon and complete the full circle with him getting together with Kyouko.
Celebrities usually have it hard when maintaining relationship, but whether we will get there remains to be seen. Kuu and Sarah seemed to have quite harmonic relationship - though yeah Kuon was a playboy and it is not just once or twice Kyouko complained about how Ren could easily seduces woman at times.
Ah commitment. Yeah we can say their exchange (Corn for necklace) is a form of commitment - I think Kyouko also mentioned that it felt like rings exchange during wedding ceremony lol. It certainly fate that bring those two together again - cause Kuon didn't even expect that when he gave the Corn stone to Kyouko.
I was actually imagining an intense love from Kyouko side you know. Like back when she was with Fuwa lol. Personally though, I like how Ren and Kyouko have been interacting throughout the story, and maybe there would be not much changes even when they become official couple.
Yup ^^
DeleteThat's right but then, doesn't the status of models go high/more popular if they are married or have a relationship with a celebrity? As I mentioned, like bringing one's partner to events which is usually very publicized? And, isn't Juliena also know for her beauty? But then, perhaps, the timeline of SB = internet isn't that popular? ^^; By the way, isn't she an actress, too?
Ya...perhaps it is for easier recall for US audience? Ah, perhaps, it is more on having a Japanese name and English name? Like Jacky Chan having an English name and Chinese? Changing persona is a bit different/difficult. I mean usually one would want to build up on one's previous career.
Hehe, well, like you, I also like that idea until I started thinking of how it is going to be done/pulled off to make it somewhat believable. I mean basing on real life but then, since this is fiction...well, anything goes.
Yes. I get the impression that it is because of being busy/temptations <- in real life. Then, there's also possible long distance relationship. Haha, but they have fate on their side.
Hehe, is that so? Like, fangirling? Indeed, I also like their interactions. Becoming official, maybe more lovey-dovey though I cannot quite imagine - Kyouko's reactions. Hm...I don't recall any real kiss scenes with Kyouko except for stolen ones. ^^;; Hehe, she did well though while acting as Setsuka. ^^
Hmm it is curious indeed. But you did say that 'Sarah' was her disguise, so I kinda accepted that, even if Kyouko might have seen her as Kuu's wife, she might not recognize her as his wife. The only point against it was how easy Ren recognize her (pretty much right away), but maybe there were some peculiarity about her disguise that was familiar to him.
DeleteHmm, Morizuki (Director) seemed well-versed in his use of gadget so we can be certain that they were able to use internet quite well. I don't recall Sarah ever was connected with acting, we only know she is a model (I assumed she was the one Ren thought of when he taught Kyouko modeling).
Ah I see. Yeah changing persona is difficult, that's why I think it's either he stick to being Ren Tsuruga or being Kuon? Tbh it's hard to imamgine, partly because we know little of Kuon. How do you think Ren will be if he stopped being Ren and start posing as Kuon? Anyway, I think his past as Kuon make Kyouko special and that will be key for them to stay together in the future.
Oh do we not count her kissing him when he posed as Corn in Guam? xD. I think it was quite cute scene they had there, cause Ren keep calling her Kyouko-chan and she struggled to not showing any weird or overly happy faces from being called so lol. I think even now she still give slightest hint of happiness when topic about Ren arises lol. I really wonder just for how long until their relationship will be know to public xD.
True...but then, the 'disguise' isn't really a disguise with possible change of hairstyle and outfit + glasses...haha, though a lot of people were fooled by Clark Kent 😅
DeleteYes...though perhaps, their internet isn't like how it is now with lots of social media, etc. Iirc, at the start of the series, they are still using flip phone. I forgot what year this series is suppose to be set in. Like, late 90s or early 20s?
I'm thinking she is a model-actress. ^^; I checked in SB wiki and it is written as model/actress. Can we say that she is good in acting based on how she interacted with Kyouko and her drama that she is dying if she didn't see Kuon?
I actually cannot imagine how. Well, if we think about real life because the fans/image that took some years to build will be turned into nothing/smaller in scope. Can it be totally scrapped? Like say, Ren has retired. And, well, he invested only a few years so I guess he can easily let go and start all over again with a new persona. But then, won't people be curious as to who Kuon was before? Haha, I guess that is if we can imagine that people can never equate Ren = Kuon so no problem. ^^
That's right. So, hopefully, the big reveal is good. ^^ Lol, and I'm guessing it will be a cliffhanger.
Haha, but does it count? And we have to put into consideration that she is thinking of him as Kuon the fairy/childhood friend and not Ren the person she likes ^^ Well, those who are close would notice. But if there will be a long distance relationship, it won't be known in public anytime soon. And, Ren does have a 'front' = being linked to some other actress.
I see, Clak Kent it is :D. Anyway, any talk about Kuon, Sarah, and Kuu is a bit premature I think. We have only been shown bits and heard things mentioned, but the whole picture is still a big Question Mark imo. I think we better wait patiently and see how it goes for now.
DeleteAh true. It was mentioned in recent chapters, I forget which, but SB timeline should be early 2000. But gadget use has grown tremendously in the past decades, so small year difference can be big. Though Lorry is still using his flip-phone ^^ Actually some later symbian phone could also do some basic browsing (I for one still have my old Nokia and use it to browse news site lol).
Oh I never looked up there wiki lol. Did they put reference which said she's an actress there? Hmm, good point about that. I used to think that as her way of asking Kuu to spoil her (pretend dying) lol.
I know right, cause my mind went blank when thinking about what significance it has for Ren to abandon his persona. Well clearly Kuon has rougher way of doing things and maybe he won/t keep the gentleman facade all the time, but if I just see him being himself in Guam (interacting with people and all), I really don't see problem of Kuon keeping most of Ren persona characteristic.
It may span quite number of chapters too. Though I wonder whether we will get it from Kuon himself or his family. Or maybe from RIck's gf.
Ah I see what you mean. Cause as much as I want to romanticize that event, it's clear that the one Kyouko was in love with is Ren. Kuon is, for his status as Fairy Prince, is never even in consideration (it was hilarious how she would have Fuwa called her name but not KUon lol). Well if they do PR together they will be guaranteed plenty of time together. I get the feeling we won't get into long distance relationship part, cause SB strength has been interaction between the main cast. Maybe we got time skip and then some closing chapters and epilogue.
True ^^ Hehe, well, guessing is also part of the fun and yes, a lot of patience is needed.
DeleteYup. Actually, I think around that time, there isn't much celebrity sites and social sites for people to do research on. Around that time, iirc, I just depend on TV and newspapers for celebrity news. Now, there's FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc...that even minor celebrities can easily be 'researched' if they have an account or fan base. So, given Kuu's status, I assumed that there should be people who knows/is curious of his wife. Oh well...it's either a plothole or trivial.
It wasn't written though I did get an impression that she was a model-actress and assumed that she met Kuu while acting together. I think I read it before. ^^;
Hm...thinking about it, can't he keep the Ren persona as public image and just be Kuon in private life/acting? I suddenly remembered that there are actors that have a certain image which makes them appealing to audience/fans but that image isn't necessarily one's true self.
True...so which part is exactly exclusively to Kuon and not Ren's? One is being actually seductive - Emperor of the Night- though that is shown only when he's with Kyouko. I think he toned down being violent/reacting badly. More angst? Would he no longer be a 'gentleman' because he is back to Kuon?
Haha...number of chapters...say 12+ chapters = 1+ years for us? ^^ For me, it would be nice if it is from Kuon himself. There might be extra drama if it is from others.
Yes, most likely not and yes, I'm thinking of time skip. The long distance relationship thing is very common in shoujo. It is usually used in the final arc or one before the final arc so that the ending is a dramatic reunion. Hence, I wonder if the author will also do that here.
Ah, true. I also found imagining things about characters that we are quite familiar with fun, in that we can shape them the way we wanted to. Ofc we will have canon later on, but such things is fun while it last :D
DeleteHmm I can see your point. Also Sarah couldn't be nobody, because she is related to Duris, right? Or Ren's relation with him is from Kuu? I feel like, again, we severely lack information about this enigmatic couple. Either way, if they got married, it couldn't be a minor thing in entertainment world.
That's how I think too, cause at this point the gentleman persona is something as natural as breathing for Ren. With BJ in his CV, I think he doesn't need to worry that producer will think he cannot do villain roles too. I mean there are times where an actor's public image is associated with his acting, and subsequently limit their opportunity for certain roles. I don't think there's such concern for Ren atm.
Yeah, he is Ren, and most of the time he kept Kuon's violence in check with exception when he acted BJ. But regardless if he stays Ren or not, I think he will have to change his image still to fit international or at least U.S. audience. I found this more satisfying explanation than just changing his persona randomly. There are values that Japanese would hold more dearly than global audience, and vice versa, and he might need to make adjustment.
I see. Kyouko also had Saena-San told her everything. At least I think it is more probable that she would hear the story from the family themselves, if not Kuon.
Ah .. that kinda reminded me of CCS ending (I used to watch/ read the series when I was little). Personally I don't mind, as long as every loose end are tied up nicely. I hope we will see Amamiya find some success in her acting before the end hahah. Of all Love-Me member, it feels that she is a bit behind in acting career.
Indeed ^^ And, for me, it would be great if the canon is better than what I had imagined ^^ Though there is a bit of satisfaction if it's the same ^^
DeleteThat's right. It should be a big thing...at least, in Japan. Haha, I'm also assuming that Kuu was one of the most eligible bachelor in Japan before so news might want to inform people that he is taken. =P
Yup. There is variety in his work especially in the last two - romance then horror/action. Kyouko is getting there. ^^ Ah, Momiji isn't exactly an antagonist yet the third wheel of a love triangle. I think she'll get a lead part soon.
Hm...in what way? Image = looks, name or something more? The first two, I think he'll do. Ah, playboy image is okay in US, right? Being a gentleman...is that important for Americans?
Yes.
Yup though it is cliche. Hehe...in what, a romance-comedy? ^^ That will be interesting = combi of things she doesn't like/isn't into. =P
Hehe true :D
DeleteI see your point. I think I might have taken the 'funeral' of Kuu in Japan too literally. He might just do it since he's leaving Japan anyway, there might just be no other meaning lol.
Hehe yeah. Momiji is such a change from Mio and Natsu, since she auditioned for the role so it's not so much antagonistic. Also character like Momiji that suffer tragic death usually gets special spot for the audience, so Momiji is pretty much a jackpot for Kyouko, not to mention it got her Leonard's attention.
Yeah, I think Ren would be a bit wilder lol. Anyway, he used to live in the USA, if anything, it's just him getting back to root? Personally I don't see Ren would have trouble with it whatsoever. It maybe not that smooth for Kyouko, though we might not get that far in the epilogue :D.
Lol, you like to see her suffer eh? I actually imagining something more like a project similar to Dark Moon or Lotus in the Mire.
Hehe...well, you think after PR, Ren is leaving for good? Before, I'm thinking that he will just focus in US but now, can't he do a few works in Japan while Kyouko is still in Japan?
DeleteIt will be a good excuse to see each other at times. Iirc, having no time for each other is one factor for celebrities/actors to break up.
Yup ^^ And, she's really lucky to get his attention even before it is shown.
Yes but wasn't that 'root' problematic that is why he left? So, does that mean Cedric has to be like Kimiko in Japan...have to leave the industry for Ren to work comfortably in US?
Haha, not really. It is more on showing her versatility. I think she's already good in serious dramas. ^^
Ah yeah you're right. I mean, we haven't had that talk about Ren moving his base to USA (in the comic), though I think Kimiko's appearance might indicate that (moving and focusing on career abroad). Hehe Ikr, long distance relationship rarely works. Though they did persist as Kyouko and Corn, maybe they would be fine. I hope they would lol.
DeleteIt is unlikely, I think. He is a big shot right? I mean Cedric is on a different level than Kimiko. Also conflicts between actors is, I think not a rare thing? I have read that certain actor refused to work with certain actor/ director and stuff like that. Also I think for both their career, I don't think they would mention an incident that may hurt their image. I personally don't think Cedric will just make a way for Kuon like that, unless he does something that created scandal for homself.
But it is interesting that you mention that the root is problematic. Maybe things will be different now that Ren is a bonafide star known as Tsuruga Ren with various roles in his CV, plus whatever he will do in PR, rather than when he was a stubborn start-up who got fired frequently.
Ah I see. So just like Kyouko who went with Antagonist spree, Amamiya will go comedy spree instead. That kind of make sense lol.
True, actually, the mention of the other characters going abroad in the recent chapters make me think that they are going for career abroad as their final goals.
DeleteYup, the two can can pretty much 'endure' for the final goal ahead. ^^
Hm...now that you mention it, yes, being a big shot, one ought to be more cautious. He wasn't like that before so likely with some backing, he can get away with it. And yes, Ren was a kid then. Ah, isn't Cedric the type who'll make others do his dirty work? So that, his image/reputation is still good? I'm thinking along that line. Kinda of like Box'R's Natsu.
Well, if Cedric will indeed do it, I hope that the author will make him a formidable antagonist. Not like the jealous co-actresses pranks on Kyouko or Kimiko doing the deed herself. ^^;
Yup, and romance which she hates. ^^ Lol, I think it will be too much if she has to act cutie-cutie flirty types.
I'm not sure about Cedric playing mastermind like Natsu. I think given Kuon's martial artist expertise, I can imagine him bringing people because he (Cedric) afraid of going 1 v 1 against Kuon lol.
DeleteYeah, I have expectations on Cedric too. Usually those with elegant appearance can host a truly twisted character inside.
Oh lol. That would be cute challenge for her for sure.
Haha, indeed. But that was before? What are the odds that Cedric learned how to fight, too?
DeleteYup ^^ Actually, that is so in real life. Like, how having a very good appearance can help one get away with bad deeds.
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