tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post6546656926047362806..comments2024-03-25T22:25:50.028+08:00Comments on A Dreamer on Drugs 2: Akatsuki no Yona [Chapter 114]Kathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-73806761175783381472016-02-26T20:07:34.197+08:002016-02-26T20:07:34.197+08:00Thanks for reading, clariza ^-^
You can read them...Thanks for reading, clariza ^-^<br /><br />You can read them here: <br />http://hisazuki.tumblr.com/<br /><br />Go to the summaries link above.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-50937447096691634382016-02-26T15:58:28.307+08:002016-02-26T15:58:28.307+08:00tnx for summary !! by da way wer i can find chapt...tnx for summary !! by da way wer i can find chapter 118 and up?! please tel me i really wnt to read it tnx again clarizanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-63450900939631547212015-11-22T21:14:29.171+08:002015-11-22T21:14:29.171+08:00Indeed.
I see.
Hm..good point regarding the po...Indeed. <br /><br />I see. <br /><br />Hm..good point regarding the possible aftermath if she lived even if they love each other. <br /><br />=)Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-12446422149460282942015-11-22T21:08:41.184+08:002015-11-22T21:08:41.184+08:00Yes those who actually know her are on the watch b...Yes those who actually know her are on the watch because they know how capable she is ,I think even someone from the castle mentioned that if she was a boy she would become emperor .But you are right about turks and Han even during her mother's time the han were fighting the turks so chang has nothing to do with it since that's a problem that existed even before she was born .<br /><br />I think they are just there to watch over their base ,raise the little girl and watch out in case anything does happen but I'm hoping they get intel from the maid .<br /><br />Yup ,maybe something along the line of "i loved only you my whole life you are my everything ,I drove my husband +his brothers and their kids to death ,I know that I'm probably never gonna have peace <br />(since everybody will gossip about them and maybe even harm her for what she did ) and I do hope there is a guilt in sending children to their death because like I said the husband might be a husband but the kids did nothing wrong and if she sent kids to their death and felt nothing no remorse or guilt than that woman was even worse than scum .<br /><br />Again this is yet anothe If and Maybe like you said we don't know enough to make a proper theory .<br /><br />Yup ,it was ^^<br /><br />I forgot that it's based on volumes and not magazine release .<br /><br />I'm already done ^^sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-83489810272128523062015-11-22T20:48:47.559+08:002015-11-22T20:48:47.559+08:00Oh yeah, there was that prophecy. Still..even if m...Oh yeah, there was that prophecy. Still..even if most belittle her, there are those who are on the watch if she pulls something. And, thinking about it, even if let's assume that Chang will do that with the Turks, it will also take a lot of time. Also, even with/without Chang with the Turks, I'm sure the Hans/China will keep on continuing on arming itself against the Turks to prevent any invasion or if it is prosperous/ambitious enough, go invading.<br /><br />I see..that is possible.<br /><br />Ah..what are the guys left in Tang currently doing again? ^^; Are they researching something since you mentioned get her proper answers. <br /><br />Ya, I know what you mean. <br /><br />That doesn't seem to jive. If she 'sacrificed' her boys for Shimin, why would she poison herself out of shame and regret? An afterthought? <br /><br />0~0~0<br /><br />Oh..so it was late than usual ^^; Hehe, I guess I didn't notice. <br /><br />True..I noticed that Titania are basing their scanlation on the volumes so it will be delayed than the magazine release. <br /><br />No problem ^^ <br /><br />By the way, comment on AnY is up ^^ Want to read your thoughts on it. ^^ Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-46900964653899642552015-11-22T18:47:26.061+08:002015-11-22T18:47:26.061+08:00I learned after noticing that shouen jump manga we...I learned after noticing that shouen jump manga weren’t released the usual time so I checked on the net and in reality a big mess happened so I thought people (raw provider) are getting scared since people are being arrested so that’s why but I didn’t think ,this will affect all the other mangas <br />Oh I hope it ‘s just released a week later and it will be only for a while I<br />Okay thanks ^^<br />Okay thanks .Titania scans is the one doing AnY but they didn’t upload anything for a while I think they are at chapter 105 ,10 chapter behind so yeah this one is delayed to say the least ^^<br />Thanks ^^<br />sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-34678022164087391582015-11-22T18:39:44.075+08:002015-11-22T18:39:44.075+08:00Yup and that she was very shelterd as a child .
Yo...Yup and that she was very shelterd as a child .<br />You do have a point but just like she is doing with uyghur right now chang is working things from behind she is more of a puppet master than someone like sun or yona who rushes in there like a bull So I believe that by manipulating those surrounding her she could obtain help from the turks to attack but yeah currently she isn’t a threat but she couldv’e been their biggest threat .I mean there was this prophecy that is mentioned in the manga’s summary about a demonic star that would bring chaos to the tang but look like chang changed her fate .<br />Another reason why I believe chang could achieve this ,is because of the sui princess who is the mother of the lesser Khan (sun’s brother) the wife of the former great khan and I think she also married the current one (sun’s dad) .She is plotting a rebellion with her son to take over the turks and march upon tang to take back the throne since before tang it was sui .She is doing all of that and the great khan didn’t even notice .Chang could’ve reached her and joined her rebellion and it would work .<br />But you did make a good point about sun and since it’s chang ge xing things never go as predicted .<br />I think so ,I just hope the guys chang left behind in tang would be able to get her proper answers .<br /><br />Yes ,both do love each other and I don’t know if they are aware of it .I do like that despite all that ,they keep their feelings in their hearts hoping not to be enemies yet will probably end up as enemies (don’t know if i’m being clear ^^) it’s very bittersweet .<br />You are probably right about chang’s mother and the reason why she did all of that in some way or another probably has to do with shimin again I believe we need the maid to get the full story .<br />Yup ,when shimin mentioned his dream of having a kingdom and she didn’t tell him hers I believe it was something along the lines of being with him till they die .Yup he was her dream and her choice as well ,her everything like I said .<br />About the poison ,either chang’s dad did it because he knew she was working behind his back or she did out of shame and regret for her betrayal because even if her husband was scum the kids had done nothing wrong .<br />sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-54484760201485219092015-11-22T18:16:32.880+08:002015-11-22T18:16:32.880+08:00Hehe, I only learned of it after reading about it ...Hehe, I only learned of it after reading about it in baidu ^^;;<br /><br />It might be both..release it after a week but it will only be for their forum. I'm not sure if it is permanent or they are just lying low for a while. It happened before with MS, right? <br /><br />I found an AnY translation and scans. I'll post it in an entry together with my comments ^^ Rant on. <br /><br />Actually, if there is any English translation, I plan to just post comments for discussion. That is for series wherein people actually discuss things. The English scans for AnY is definitely delayed. <br /><br />True...sure, if there is any ^^Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-1589909088575973392015-11-22T17:30:04.385+08:002015-11-22T17:30:04.385+08:00True. And, if it is in real life, we might say Yon...True. And, if it is in real life, we might say Yona is reading too many shounen manga like Naruto =P <br /><br />Yup.<br /><br />Yes, but I think they tend to belittle girls. For them, Chang isn't really a threat. And, currently, it is proven true..of course, that is due to Chang's change of goal. Hm..Sun is one thing but I'm not sure if the other Turks would be as willing to form an alliance with Chang even if she is talented and everything. It will be difficult. Aside from being a girl, she is a Han. Sun who has been with them for such a long time is still, iirc, viewed unfavorably due to any single mistake/seemingly disloyal acts. <br /><br />Ya..the maid might be the key.<br /><br />I think it is already known that they love each other. I mean s/he is being loved by the other based on their 'farewell' scene. It doesn't seem to be a one-sided one. Something like even if we are apart, my everything still belongs to you. Neglecting the children is a puzzle. And, a mother usually won't let send her children to death. It did make me think that it is possible that she didn't raise her children herself. Surely, there are attendants and servants, etc. If she fall out of favor from her husband, the children can also be used against her. Anyway, that's purely speculation. Too many things are unknown to form a more proper theory. In a way, Chang's mother had a dream..to be with/protect Shimin. Of course, maybe, like what you mentioned, she was poisoned so.. Anyway, we'll probably learn more about it later on. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-71891768811674556842015-11-22T13:08:24.042+08:002015-11-22T13:08:24.042+08:00Regarding the issue of the raw/translation . I was...Regarding the issue of the raw/translation . I was afraid that the recent arrest in Japan would affect all the other raw provider whether they are chinese or japanese and thus the english translation but look like it did . I can't blame these guys because they are just looking out for themselves .But still I feel bad because it feel like the time where we won't even get shounen jump is getting near :(<br /><br />About Redfaces so what 's their plan ,they will release SB and AnY chapters a week after it's out in japan ? Or their scans won't ever be made public again ? I hope it's option number :( <br /><br /><br />SB is my favorite shoujo and I need my usual AnY ranting + I'm curious about it despite all what I usually say about it ^^<br /><br />So what will you do ? If they release the chapter a week after it's been published and there is no english scan in the mean time you will do it ,but if there is you won't is that's it ?<br /><br />I really hope this issue will get fixed and we still get manga for free .Please do tell if there is any news ^^sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-34732794719272976642015-11-22T12:56:35.650+08:002015-11-22T12:56:35.650+08:00Yup and it isn't like Qin or Chang are dumb or...Yup and it isn't like Qin or Chang are dumb or naive so it's okay .Somehow now I think of yona if a shady dude like that was in AnY she would glare at him and act bossy .She would never think of using him to achieve a more important goal I guess that' s what you get when you have a heroine who is very realistic and another one who plays hero of justice .<br /><br />Good point with her caliber she would a big shot in the political sphere .<br /><br />Yup and she does that while having sharp wits ,lots of knowledge and good combat skills .While yona and Lili have none of these .I guess unlike the two ,chang has to do this because there is actual threat on her life ,and unlike the two who are naive she knows that no matter how skilled she is ,she can defeat a power like the turks just like that.She mentioned the whole thing about saving one man and not being able to save his tribe ,ending a problem and not being able to end the era of chaos , I think that the problem is that chang think of the long term future and is pretty logical and realistic in how she faces those issues .Yona on the other hand she just think of the present day and that's why she never comes up with lasting solutions .At the end of the day the difference between these two is so great that it's hard to even compare them . Lol they are indeed alike and at least barto is strong .^^<br /><br />I think it's the possiblity as to why she let chang escape .You said yourself that she sent the boys to die and not chang because the boys would be a threat to shimin for the throne .But chang was noted to be way better than her brothers so she is a bigger threat .She could've made an alliance with the turks to invade tang ,she is more than capable of doing that yet she let her go .So I'm thinking maybe she is his child and they met once in the past and chang is the result ???? Again I believe the maid will provide us with answer and I hope we see her soon .<br /><br />Yes ,even though I find her pathetic I'm not that shocked because during that time women like that were the norm .<br /><br />Ah okay ,since it wasn't mentioned I don't think so but it seems like there was gossip about her and shimin .<br /><br />Nope ,we don't unless it will be shown later all of chang's flashbacks are of her mother looking away .<br /><br />Yes ;I know it will take time and alot of struggle .<br /><br />Yup ,she is walking on a landmine .I really believe that the truth should only be known to her .For her safety and her goal .<br /><br />Of course if you are in a relationship and you do what you want without giving a damn about the other person then what's the point of being a couple ? But in chang's case or in her mom's case they were exactly with their love interest ,both had feelings for their love interest but weren't together .So my point is since it's a love kept in your heart why give up everything for that person like her mother did ????<br /><br />Now if they confessed their love for each other and were in a relationship even if it was something offical things should be different .But it's true that no matter what balance is important kyouko is the best example ,with shou she was all about him and gave up even on her future for him which was sickening with ren on the other hand she is his number one supporter ,he has a huge place in her heart and mind ,she will always help him out yet she has her own goal and her own dream which she loves as much as she does him and that's fantastic .<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-44068525765684382452015-11-22T10:43:58.463+08:002015-11-22T10:43:58.463+08:00Thanks for the reminder ^^ Well, he is greedy and ...Thanks for the reminder ^^ Well, he is greedy and shady..but they need him for business.<br /><br />Perhaps..but given her brains, maybe a lawyer or diplomat ^^ It would be a waste to put her into air-head/submissive type roles just because she can do it. =P <br /><br />Indeed..lie low for a while to get hold of what's going on without attracting attention. So, when we read what Yona and Lili are doing...they are like Bartho and his crew who managed to survive New World due to luck. Hehe..and you mentioned her, too ^^;<br /><br />Ya, it is most probably that. Still..why only her? I recall that you mentioned of the possibility that she is Shimin's daughter. Could her husband found out about it and blackmailed her into something so she cannot afford to be too close to Chang? Was it confirmed that she isn't Shimin's daughter? ^^;;; I mean, Shimin didn't know and somehow, they had a rendezvous of some sort? <br /><br />True and of course, it isn't surprising because there are many women like that during that time. Chang is actually the 'rare type'. <br /><br />Well, I meant the other wives causing trouble if she's the favorite. But it wasn't mentioned so..let's assume that it didn't mattered.<br /><br />Indeed..and well, for Saena, it is because Kyouko went to ask her. Do we have flashbacks of Chang when she is older with her mother? I can only recall the ones when she was young. She did warn her about what's going to happen and send her away to safety, right? <br /><br />Maybe for the meantime, look out for the Khitans..becoming the great Khan will take a longer time. <br /><br />Indeed. He is very sensitive about issues regarding his sister so Chang has to trend carefully on that subject..that is if she knew more about what' he is 'excited' about. <br /><br />Hehe..true. <br /><br />True..but then, I would prefer some balance..if it is all 'my goals', then what's the point of the romance stuff? I mean, if it is a couple, if one insists on doing things 'my way' without regard of the other, things can be also problematic. But I do get your point. It is not about the world goes around because of a certain person and that is all that matters. Hehe, but there are readers who love that. ^^ <br /><br />Yup ^^<br />Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-59086861494051889312015-11-22T02:24:13.614+08:002015-11-22T02:24:13.614+08:00other hand does care about sun and so does he but ...other hand does care about sun and so does he but she doesn’t lose her mind and her brain still function .As I’ve told you above both made it clear to each others that they didn’t want to be enemies but if they meet in battle it will be another story .I really like that it’s like I may like you but it doesn’t change that I’ve my own goals and I won’ t give them up just for you it’s nice and refershing .<br />Anyway I ‘m looking forward to how chang will mange the upcoming conflict since she can’t meddle with her uncle considering she is a dumb little girl and she wouldn’t risk exposing herself <br />I’m also looking forward to chang’s relationships with her relatives and the possible reveal of their connection .I really feel that the hairpin will play a part .<br />And of course I’m looking forward to what Sun will do ^^<br />P.s I really hope we will see the servant since she seems to be the only one who knows the truth .<br /><br />sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-36692672601925244342015-11-22T02:23:26.507+08:002015-11-22T02:23:26.507+08:00slaughtered she was forced to run away .Yet she ov...slaughtered she was forced to run away .Yet she overcame all the hardships made peace with her past found herself a new goal ( I feel the same about kyouko ^^ )<br />I don’t think anyone made her life miserable she did that to herself .Maybe he had other wives i don’t think she cared though .<br />I think that fate has been cruel with chang’s mother can’t deny it but ultimately her life being so miserable was her own choice .<br /><br />Ah okay they were indeed had the same status ,still chang is a fighter she challenged fate while her mother was a weakling who just accepted what happened to her and even made her situation worse <br />You are right about husband hate most of the time =hate for the kids even though they are also yours it’s sad but it’s also true .<br />Yup and the problem is that chang’s mom never bothered to explain anything to her at least saena is doing that now .Because it’s like you said ,it will make the child think that he is hated and that there is something wrong with him and that’s so no true .It is never a child’s fault ,kids are just victims .<br /><br />Yup ,maybe he will fight to obtain the position of the great khan ,he never did in the past so maybe now he will try to .If he really has a new opinion on the turks and the world in general and he want for his ideals to spread ,he will do that .Or maybe he will just try to look out for the Khitan without changing anything .<br />I hope so but I’ve doubts <br />I don’t know if he think she is with turks but he is pretty sure she is still alive and he isn’t wrong since she died a year ago instead of 16 years ago .<br />Ooops look like I got it wrong ^^ Ya chang is like an adopted child she knows nothing of her mother not even her real name so yeah I also think she will be quite curious about her mother’s roots .<br />I don’t think they have anything against the han but I’ve a bad feeling about chang’s uncle .I think that if he discovers that she is his niece ,he would want her there to say with his mom or if he think she is pretending to be his niece /related (like with the mole) that chang should watch out for her neck. You said it yourself that it will make them look terrible if their whole cover gets blown up .The dude almost killed for a mole which wasn’t even fake so if he learn they are lying things will get ugly <br />At the end I do believe that the truth should only be known by chang ,it’s sad but it’s safer that way her uncle is way too unpredictable and dangerous .But I’m still looking forward to their interractions in the future .It’s funny seeing chang play the innocent and foolish young lady when she is the furthest thing from it ^^<br />I know and it despite all what I’ve said ,it really did give me a tragic love feeling /star crossed lovers but it’s still pathetic and lame in some aspect .Because she was like 13 or 14 and she ruined her whole life because of that .Sadly it’s the same in every manga and in real life as well .Chang on the sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-27555434524676251952015-11-22T02:22:15.634+08:002015-11-22T02:22:15.634+08:00Yes and So far things have been amazing in this st...Yes and So far things have been amazing in this story .The events that happened have been exciting and above all they make sense and the plot is moving on nicely though it’s hard to predict which is fantastic ^^<br />This dude who is talking with Qin is Shaboli .He is greedy and shady merchant .<br />http://mangapark.me/manga/chang-ge-xing/s2/v4/c23/4<br />I believe if it was in modern times she would be a famous actress she would put kyouko to shame ^^ I think it take wits and guts to act the way she does ,because if for example she was find out in the beginning by sun he would’ve killed her .But she acted her part well until she earned his trust and now it’s okay that he knows .<br />Here as well with her uncle ,for her own sake and for the sake of her plan the best option is to play dumb in order not to make him become suspicous of them .<br />In short ,pretending and acting is a very good move on chang’s part because it allows her to reach her goals and get through dangerous situations without having to fight .Unlike a certain red headed heorine who doesn’t have even a tiny bit of chang ‘s intelligence and fighting skills yet goes around glaring and bossing around .If She existed in chang ge xing she would’ve died ages ago .<br />I believe you are right and If I may end she probably also thought something along the lines of « Shimin was the one who saved me and treated me well in this foreign land so I should spend my life looking through a window while neglecting my kids and sending them to their deaths all for Shimin’s sake »<br />You know this isn’t the same with saena who obviously never loved kyouko ,I think chang’s mother did care at some point <br />Look at this http://mangapark.me/manga/chang-ge-xing/s2/v4/c23/22<br />http://mangapark.me/manga/chang-ge-xing/s2/v4/c23/23<br />If I could give these two pages a name it would be motherly love .That’s the feeling I get so I’m really starting to think that in addition the hateful husband .The reason why she was cold /neglected chang is because like you said she was afraid to look at her and see her lead the same life as she did .She looked very sad/worried when in a flashback chang being sent to the turks was mentioned .I also believe that she stopped looking at her because she felt guilty ,knowing that a day will come where she will take away everything from her and of course the fact that she wasn’t shimin’s kid was probably yet another reason .<br />I believe that at this stage of the story the only one who could tell us more about this ,is the maid that was kicked out so I hope we will see her .Because we got proper background about sun’s family ,while things about chang’s parents mainly her mother are still very vague .<br />My opinion about chang’s mother is someone who is pathetic and very weak .It’s like she was just a beautiful doll .Yeah she did go through alot of hardship but instead of fighting and moving on .She did nothing ,she stopped lived and was stuck in the past and if it isn’t pathetic I don’t know what it is When I see this and see how chang is I ‘ve even more respect for her .I mean she grew up while her parents didn’t care about her ,her family was sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-41611836896720442432015-11-21T21:40:25.939+08:002015-11-21T21:40:25.939+08:00Hehe, I agree.
That is a possibility but to chang...Hehe, I agree.<br /><br />That is a possibility but to change how Turks run things, he might have to be in a higher position. So, he'll probably have more conflicts with his father and brother. <br /><br />True...hope she survives the series ^^<br /><br />I see. So, Uyghur/uncle believes that she is still with the Turks? <br /><br />Hehe, you lost me. I'm talking about adoption as comparison like an adopted child who doesn't know his/her past would be curious about his/her real parents. For Chang, her mother is a foreigner so she would probably have the same curiosity of wanting to know about her mother's side of the family. Perhaps, know more about her mother before she was taken to China? Something like, finding one's roots/history. <br /><br />Hm..not sure. They are still family...but then, they aren't exactly antagonistic against the Han or a vassal, like Sun's situation. So, maybe Chang will try to help both sides?<br /><br />I see.<br /><br />Yes...it's first and only love. As I always mention, emotional/very much in love is not equal to logic. <br />Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-36718044564717937362015-11-21T21:14:45.064+08:002015-11-21T21:14:45.064+08:00True, it will be interesting. And, I'm curious...True, it will be interesting. And, I'm curious how it will turn out. <br /><br />Yup, I recall the roads being closed. Somewhat forgot about Shaboli ^^; Anyway, thanks for the recap ^^<br /><br />Yup, Chang has some acting skills..or it is really easy to act that way ^^;<br /><br />Let's just say that she is too engrossed with herself to give proper care towards her children. Maybe, she is going, oh poor me, not only was I taken away to this foreign place but also made to marry someone I don't love and perhaps, how can I love these children who remind me of that man. Chang didn't inherit her hair, right? Speaking of that, was she the first wife? There is a thing called a harem at that time. Was she still the 'flavor of the month' at that time? It is also a factor that she isn't from their lineage. I'm just thinking of some other series wherein the woman was made to become part of the harem and she was the favorite even if she doesn't love the king, the other women and the queen made her life miserable. And, she wasn't able to properly take care of her son. So, I'm not sure if it was the similar for Chang's mother. And, I think for some parent, if they hate their husband/wife, they tend to also extent it towards the children. Maybe that is what she is like? Yup, it isn't an excuse..but that might be her reason. <br /><br />Well, I'm thinking more on status as a female in that kind of world rather than for them having similar personality ^^; Aside from the mole..or perhaps, eyes..<br /><br />Is that so..maybe something did happen. Yup, that's her choice. <br /><br />About that, refer to what I mentioned above regarding hating one's husband/wife extending to the children. <br /><br />True..that really hurts and for the child, it will usually make them thing that they are hated. <br /><br />Ya..or maybe something indirect like she saw the funeral or someone told her about it. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-46825948785817950612015-11-21T17:42:07.012+08:002015-11-21T17:42:07.012+08:00About the question if they know that the mother is...About the question if they know that the mother is a princess .I don't think they do ,They don't even know her name .I remember in the prologue when Shimin gave her name and they were talking she was saying about how you didn't even ask me for my name .It's like she was taken and raised as a han ,I mean even shimin said it you are one of us .<br /><br />And again about the romance .It's true that it got this tragic feeling to it ,like star crossed lovers but I noticed something when the mother met shimin was probably 13 or 14 because the hair style she got is how the han grils under the age of 15 style their hair and it's only when they reach 15 they can let their hair down .Thus she probably died at 29 30 years old anyway you are telling me because of a guy she met a 13 or 14 she did all of that ???? I explained enough above ^^sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-82304309207704670692015-11-21T17:07:57.304+08:002015-11-21T17:07:57.304+08:00Yup and so far the realism in the story is really ...Yup and so far the realism in the story is really there sometimes I even wish things were a little bit more fluffy for chang and sun ^^ But still this is what I like about the story because it makes things hard to predict and thus it’s very exciting .<br />Oops I mean to say sun not SW ^^<br />You are right about that he still retain his reckless and brutal attitude but if he were like before .After saving the two kids ,he wouldn’t come up with the plan of telling the leader’s kid (his cousin) to go and make it seem like his was hunting for the turks and he got into other people territories because of that .He would just go ahead and have them killed and risk a bigger conflict .<br />What I also noticed about sun is that he may realize that the turks way is wrong .That they ask too much of their vassals who live in poverty just for the sake of not making them attack and all the food they are eating is considered luxury for others .So I’m thinking that he will indeed go back to the turks but maybe his attitude will greatly change .<br />You are right that in this case it’s better if he didn’t get attached or emotional because if he acts on his feelings in the future he may put the Khitan in harms way .<br />Yes ,I was gonna mention the mother ,she didn’t seem to have any curves but was a beauty and every guy was after her .So maybe it will be the same for chang .The way I see her looks is that she has a beautiful face and she is very skinny and delicate ,I mean she was cross dressing as a boy and no one figured her true gender .If she has a chest and other curves it would be different ,I would love to see a grown beautiful chang by the end of the story ^^<br />Nope the mother was the daughter of the former uyghur leader and it seems like her little brother was gonna be sent as a hostage to the turks but she decide to go instead so he could remain in uyghur . Then on the road they were attacked by turks and Shimin saved her since she was pretty she was taken in by the han and that’s it .<br />Here the uncle has a flashback about it <br />http://www.u17.com/chapter/426216.html#image_id=3089331<br />http://www.u17.com/chapter/426216.html#image_id=3089332<br />Why are you talking about adoption ? I think that chang toward her mother side of the family will only have curiousity and she won’t take the risk of getting herself killed or her dream crushed just for the sake of people she just met even though they are family .<br />Tang and uyghur vs turks or uyghur +the girl who fell for chang vs turks either way like I said the enemy for all these tribes are the turks so alliances between them are a possiblity .<br />sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-32450512403358154462015-11-21T16:34:00.214+08:002015-11-21T16:34:00.214+08:00True. And you know what can be more brutally reali...True. And you know what can be more brutally realistic, leaders doing that but the people don't appreciate it because they are the 'underdog/doormat'. <br /><br />Hehe, you confused me there for suddenly mentioning SW ^^;; <br /><br />I mentioned that because yes, Sun had changed a bit but based on recent events, he seems to be still the same. For example, he went ahead to help the two boys out. They only do damage control later on. Then, he stopped the Turk envoy from bullying..again damage control later on. The scenario I'm thinking is if the turks are bullying Khitan, Sun might not contain himself even more if he got close to them like with the old man from Khitan. So, it is better to kind of stay unattached so that he'll be less reckless. <br /><br />Indeed ^^ <br /><br />Yes, no curves and every man would 'lust' after her => her mother. I'm referring to solely looks. Sun might be a special case since he already knows her/him. <br /><br />What do you mean here, 'uncle feels guilty because she decided to go instead of him as hostage to the turks'? I thought the mother just so happen to be in a certain tribe and Tang came to destroy it and take her as...wait, do they know she is a princess? I thought it is the usual..hey, this woman is good looking..a waste to kill...<br /><br />Maybe, know more about her mother and her 'history'? Like where she come from. Something like being adopted..there is that curiosity about wanting to know one's real parents even if one will say that it really doesn't changes the current situation. <br /><br />Ya.<br /><br />Alliance between tang and uyghurs...vs Turks?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-11296697148718438802015-11-20T23:37:10.364+08:002015-11-20T23:37:10.364+08:00I mean for 10+years after marrying chang’s dad she...I mean for 10+years after marrying chang’s dad she never did a damn thing .Neglected her kids and just looked away ????At least sun’s mom had a mental breakdown and lost her mind when both her child and husband died .The grandma as well cried her eyes out when her daughter « died » yet we have chang’s mother who became indifferent to everything even her own flesh and blood after her relationship with shimin was over .That’s horrible really horrible ….<br />You know what make it worse is that chang (just like kyouko) always tried her best to please her mother and even without knowing the reason got the cold shoulder .<br /><br />That’s true if she doesn’t have any proof she shouldn’t utter a word because she will be digging her own grave .I mean her uncle almost slit her throat because of a mole so if it’s something like that he will kill them on the spot .I believe the best option is for chang to keep the truth for herself ,maybe when she leaves uyghurs she could leave the hairpin behind for the old lady and she would understand something like that <br />sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-47476102066258427672015-11-20T23:36:27.016+08:002015-11-20T23:36:27.016+08:00Well I agree that the uncle won’t probably listen ...Well I agree that the uncle won’t probably listen to her since she is supposed to be a sweet and innocent young lady so I’m thinking she will do something behind his back in order to try and mange the conflict .<br />Yes after some thoughts I do believe he won’t rebel and sun as well as chang made it clear that they don’t consider themselves as enemies but if they met in battle it’s another story .<br />So it’s very exciting to see how this will turn out .Because I don’t think chang will sit doing nothing if she knows sun is gonna attack them .<br />No problem ,I know what those names refer to .Well the girl who had a crush on chang .Her dad is the boss of their tribe and sent chang and co so they propose an alliance to her uncle in order to fight against the turks .This shaboli dude is a merchant who is known for being shady ,I think that’s why her uncle didn’t invite him to uyghurs .Also about merchants being closed it was mentioned when chang was in the temple ,so this make a very good excuse for chang and co as to why they left tang .<br />I get that Chang was acting a dumb young lady ,to make sure the uncle won’t be too suspicous in the future and he seems to buy the act .<br />P.s I just love it when chang play the dumb and naive card ^^<br />You do make a point but it’s still terrible .<br />I know that back in the day women ,especially in nobility didn’t have any say and were just asked to look pretty and were given as a mean to strike political alliances .And family wasn’t that important at all but from what we have seen she is a woman capable of love as shown with Shimin and in the prologue we got a glimpse of how her life was in uyghurs and she was quite loved (even though she was later given away) and even now it’s very obvious that her brother and mom are still very attached to her even though years have passed yet she threw away her children for the sake of a man whom she didn’t see for a decade + and wasn’t even married to ? It reminds me of aoi’s mother but at least that one apologized and knew she did wrong .<br />I also know that chang’s dad was a bastard ,that she didn’t love him and that there is a high chance he forced himself on her and forced her into marriage but still that’s not an excuse .<br />True ,that was wrong on my part ^^<br />Well that maybe another reason ,chang is like a younger version of herself but then again she was just a pretty doll .Chang even when she was in the castle she was noted to be intelligent and capable she is far from her useless mother .<br />What I believe is that in chang’s mother did care about her (in that flashback where she was singing to her) but as chang grew up she became cold ,neglected her completely to the point where she didn’t even look at her .Whether because it reminded her of her younger self and she couldn’t bear it or because she knew that she was worthless mother and like I said one day she will throw her into the depth of despair .I don’t know maybe if the maid is questioned later on or some hidden memory from chang will help understand her better but I think this is what happened chang’s mom had two choices either to save Li shimin and his dream or send her husband and his other brothers +all of their children to their death and it’s obvious what her choice was .<br />sofianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-65147302292778789142015-11-20T22:32:02.088+08:002015-11-20T22:32:02.088+08:00About the other children..I assume that they are m...About the other children..I assume that they are males..and it is possible that the mother sent them to their deaths since that will happen no matter what being the supposed 'rightful heirs' of the crown prince. They would presumably want to avenge their father like Chang and grab the throne. Perhaps, the mother warned, iirc, Chang because she would probably be 'safe' since she is a girl = cannot be queen. <br /><br />In this world, women aren't exactly equal with men, right? I don't think the mother has any choice if she was made to marry the crown prince. I also suspect that she was raped. <br /><br />About the reason why she doesn't look at Chang..that's a possibility. <br /><br />Hehe, you know, in real life...there are people who are 'bad' but have amazing children and vice-versa. How about..having the same mole..reminds the mother of herself..being some powerless woman who can only live in a life dictated by others in this kind of world. So, she couldn't bear to look at Chang = probably be married off to someone due to alliances/appease the enemies. Then, when she learned about the plot, she thought that this is a way to 'free' Chang from this miserable [her opinion] life. How's that? <br /><br />I'm not sure if they will think that given the 'story' that Chang and Qin are telling them. So far, the uncle is also vague about the mole. I think it will indeed be harder to say that she is the daughter without proof or else, they will indeed be thought of as people with some hidden agenda to admit that they were lying about what they said earlier. The trust would have been broken. Unlike Sun, they knew he is a Turk from the start. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-9483048340359643992015-11-20T22:31:48.862+08:002015-11-20T22:31:48.862+08:00It is indeed exciting. I'm not sure if they...It is indeed exciting. I'm not sure if they'll really fight. Somehow, I think Chang will show her expertise here then perhaps deal with this in some way. I'm not sure how they will fight each other and we aren't sure if the uncle will listen to Chang. I'm not sure Sun will rebel..iirc, he mentioned that he won't do that since he still kind of owe the Khan his life and what he is currently. <br /><br />As I told you, I have a problem with the terms so here goes: He tried rubbing the mole and she told him that the mole is there since she was in the womb. Then, he asks from where Yinan[?] got her from[?] She says that Si Jin Xun [probably the tribe with the daughter who fell in love with her] didn't searched for them but they were the one who searched for them. She mentions that from her uncle told her about Chao Tang[?] purging the merchant's roads so they can no longer go to the central plains. They have gambled a third of their home to climb up here/move up their merchant status in Shaboli [?; sorry, it seems to be terms] I think he asks if they are Shaboli's top guest. <br /><br />They are originally peddlers from the Western Regions and they were urged to prolong their stay with Si Jin thanks to his great hospitality. And, her uncle/Qin did stay. Her uncle asks why. Chang says that she finds it strange for she still wants to see the Western Regions. And, when she asked, he [Qin] would tell her but then, she doesn't understand it. Uncle says that of course, she won't understand because compared to going to Shaboli to drink soup, it is more worthwhile to eat one's meat and that old geezer's lively plan. Chang says is that so.<br /><br />She asks why didn't invite Shaboli when his caravan is bigger than theirs. Uncle didn't answer. He just tells her to tell for her uncle so that someone will be sent to them to talk about some return gift. Then something about accompanying her uncle. [<- sorry, there are some terms again mentioned here ^^;] She didn't left and asks why her mole makes him angry. He claims that he isn't angry and he just thought of someone [old friend/deceased]. She asks if that person also has a mole. He says that aside from the mole, they don't have a little bit of similarity. <br /><br />That's it. Sorry if I didn't get the merchant stuff right ^^; Basically, Chang is pretending to be dumb and just following what her uncle says. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-4723380399486148102015-11-20T22:21:21.761+08:002015-11-20T22:21:21.761+08:00come out and both uncle and grandma would know she...come out and both uncle and grandma would know she is their niece/grand child .No matter how you stretch things aren’t gonna turn well .<br />Like you said except for the grandma getting a bit attached to chang ,I don’t see anything good come out of this and seeing that the uncle is sort of nuts .He probably won’t let her leave .About helping Tang if she is smart she could still manage to have an alliance between tang and uyghurs and Shimin may get nostalgic and accept ^^<br />sofianoreply@blogger.com