tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post3210883535461879149..comments2024-03-08T15:54:02.033+08:00Comments on A Dreamer on Drugs 2: Free Talk: Skip Beat [Chapter 232]Kathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-86049050379625632082016-02-27T22:27:08.206+08:002016-02-27T22:27:08.206+08:00Thank you KAT .
~reemyThank you KAT .<br /><br />~reemyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09349001081721879184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-49450486543045862802016-02-26T19:56:39.180+08:002016-02-26T19:56:39.180+08:00You're welcome ^-^
Thanks~You're welcome ^-^<br /><br />Thanks~Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-69127996198085456572016-02-25T22:12:45.345+08:002016-02-25T22:12:45.345+08:00Thanks a lot Kat!
It is a very fine nice summary ...Thanks a lot Kat!<br /><br />It is a very fine nice summary :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-70055001059998519042016-02-02T21:49:12.034+08:002016-02-02T21:49:12.034+08:00Is that so, ebzenka.
Perhaps, it is a possibilit...Is that so, ebzenka. <br /><br />Perhaps, it is a possibility from here on. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-57908745237810158402016-02-02T06:31:16.355+08:002016-02-02T06:31:16.355+08:00Well. I like to see this. Anyway, things had chang...Well. I like to see this. Anyway, things had changed since the time Saenna was young and wanted to conquer the world. And things had changed even since Saenna was desperate and wanted to kill herself and her child.<br />She now can even be sorry that she never has had any family life at all, and she could start to appreciate that she has a daughter, a beautiful one, who found her place in the world. And as Kyoko still is in the sensitive age, she may welcome the change for real. Today they meet as two adult women, Kyoko maybe more naive, but even so more adult than her mother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-353612860200642022016-01-29T20:19:15.505+08:002016-01-29T20:19:15.505+08:00Thanks for reading, Judit ^-^
True. Well, at leas...Thanks for reading, Judit ^-^<br /><br />True. Well, at least for Kyouko, she knows that it is a fake name. <br /><br />Well, that is Hiou's misunderstanding. It might lead to that = based on the commercial they did before for a softdrink. But I hope not since it will drag things further rather than progressing the plot. <br /><br />Hehe..not really a 'love rival' but more of an overjealous friend who want to keep her friend to herself. There are some stories like that though I'm not sure how far Kanae will try to obstruct them. <br /><br />Kouki..as in Maria's father? I cannot quite imagine it. It would be a nice plot..but probably for a different series. So far, I think the pairing will be with Hiou. <br /><br />I would think Maria will be jealous but I think she'll easily accept it since it is Kyouko. <br /><br />Yup, let's see what will happen next ^^Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-81023016638146295872016-01-29T04:33:32.590+08:002016-01-29T04:33:32.590+08:00Well, it is out in the end quite early. Thanks for...Well, it is out in the end quite early. Thanks for your comments!<br /><br />I do not see the future so brigth, because Kyoko is in love with a man, who basically does not exist. Using a fake name - althought it is a stage name, but fake. And from a point of view, Kuon is also doesn't exist, he is not a fairy, after all... And this time Kyoko's love is a deep, mature love, not a childish one, as having with Sho. I am worrying. But Kyoko is a strong girl, so this gives some hope.<br /><br />Kanae in love with Ren? If Kyoko learns about it - maybe from Hiou - she will withdraw for her friend, and rejects Ren. Probably those two will meet to talk about Kyoko, and Kyoko will misunderstand that meeting.<br /><br />Kanae being in love with Kyoko? Doubt that, but Kyoko is a very important person for her, close to the best friend, which she doesn't want to accept. But she is jealous, and keep this friendship dear. Very dear. But not that love Kyoko feels for Ren. Do you know who would be the best pair for her? Rory's son, Kouki. They both have families with problems, so they would understood each other feelings easily. If Kouki would be Kyoko's new manager (as a regard of his daugther's open up), they will meet a lot, and being abandoned by Maria and Kyoko.<br /><br />Well, Maria and Hiou being jealous together for the Ren-Kyoko couple: the stage is set. I can't stand waiting for the new chapters!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595388233955697580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-50500589811486898662016-01-28T17:53:34.127+08:002016-01-28T17:53:34.127+08:00Thanks for reading, Brittany ^-^
Indeed.
In a ...Thanks for reading, Brittany ^-^ <br /><br />Indeed. <br /><br />In a way, it is an interesting contrast. Saena is suppose to be strong and everything but after what happened, she fell apart. Whereas Kyouko who was weak and everything but after what happened, she became stronger. Yet, I guess it is because Saena lost 'everything' whereas Kyouko has 'everything' to gain. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-33048559257499533042016-01-28T02:57:31.480+08:002016-01-28T02:57:31.480+08:00*Shown*ShownAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-10489647396057784182016-01-28T02:55:52.479+08:002016-01-28T02:55:52.479+08:00Thanks for posting, Kat!
At least now we know th...Thanks for posting, Kat! <br /><br />At least now we know that Saena kind of had a good reason but her to act like this for YEARS against her own daughter is a shame. She keeps running away and this is the opposite of the iron will or whatever she is known for. She may work hard but that's only because she refuses to face her personal demons. I understand that it's hard since I have my personal problems as well and hers is much bigger by comparison however she never even tried. Her self-loathing isn't helping anyone, not even herself. Kyoko is the opposite. This is the second time that Nakamura-sensei showed us. Saena may think that Kyoko IS her past self but so far we were showed the differences. Kyoko hates Sho for what he'd done. Saena hates herself instead of Misonoi. Kyoko is willing to move on. Saena is not. Even though Kyoko's issue was smaller than Saena's their personalities aren't as alike as Saena made herself believe. Knowing Kyoko this is one of her biggest obstacles. Getting her mother to look at her, to love her. And in order to do that, she has to make Saena move away from the past. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-86924095598721313162016-01-27T15:56:34.520+08:002016-01-27T15:56:34.520+08:00If those are going to be satisfyingly portrayed, y...If those are going to be satisfyingly portrayed, yup, it might not end in the next 2-3 years. So, how about 5-6 years? ^^ Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-19025846454434943792016-01-27T15:55:01.639+08:002016-01-27T15:55:01.639+08:00Well, squeaker, sometimes, the mangaka does go wit...Well, squeaker, sometimes, the mangaka does go with what everyone had expected. ^^ <br /><br />True. It does seem that she is stuck with her perception of young Kyouko. In a way, perhaps, it is because she never saw Kyouko grow up and mature until recently. I'm not sure how much updates she gets from Shou's mother regarding Kyouko but learning about running off with Shou would probably cement her perception that Kyouko is her 'bad past self'. And, she continues to have that perception until they finally talked with each other.<br /><br />So, yes, how things will turn out from here will depend on how Saena would react to Kyouko's positive attitude regarding what had happened in the past. If we are to think of Saena as one of Kyouko's former antagonists, I think that will happen. Saena will become a better person from here on. And, perhaps, a slightly better relationship. <br /><br />Yup ^^Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-12636819738496745702016-01-27T10:49:46.198+08:002016-01-27T10:49:46.198+08:00Somehow I don't see this ending in the next 2-...Somehow I don't see this ending in the next 2-3 years, since Kyouko still needs to grow as an actress. Also it be nice if we have a portion of the manga that's after they get together, with Kyouko acting against Ren. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-80852484668848157342016-01-27T00:14:44.135+08:002016-01-27T00:14:44.135+08:00I'm pretty satisfied with this chapter. I was ...I'm pretty satisfied with this chapter. I was a little disappointed with the last one (since it happened pretty much as everyone expected, which is unusual for the mangaka). This chapter connects why Saena hates Kyouko so badly even though she didn't hate the guy. It's totally understandable that she would be so upset about a pregnancy reminding her of the whole horrible situation that resulted from her mistakes. I can kind of understand that she seemed to only see her own bad qualities in her daughter as she aged. But, I think it's immature of her to still venomously hate Kyouko after 17 years. To not see her as a separate person who has her own good and bad qualities rather than just as an entity of her own mistakes. <br /><br />I think more than just deciding to make her mom like her, Kyouko is also making that resolution in order to show Saena that her "mistake" has grown into something more than that, so that the mom can be more at peace somewhat. I don't know if they can ever have a nice mom/daughter relationship, that's totally up to Saena getting over the past and accepting what they have both become. Seems like Kyouko forgives/accepts her mom's actions based on all she has learned.<br /><br />You're right, Kyouko was so fortunate to have so many people caring for her.squeakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-10860234710899467582016-01-26T17:54:15.317+08:002016-01-26T17:54:15.317+08:00Hopefully so, Diana ^-^
True. But then, Shou'...Hopefully so, Diana ^-^<br /><br />True. But then, Shou's deal ensures that Kyouko won't have anything to do with Ren. Shou already knows of Ren's feelings for Kyouko. <br /><br />Hm..it might be a bit problematic if Reino told her. I mean, after he told her, how would she react? She might not believe him after what he told her about Corn. So, she'll confront Ren about it? Will she? I don't think he'll risk casually telling it to her or else, Ren/Kuon might beat him to a pulp or something. But, if it happens, it will be interesting how it will turn out. ^^<br /><br />True ^^<br /><br />Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-5182350034990123342016-01-26T17:45:43.750+08:002016-01-26T17:45:43.750+08:00Thanks for reading ^-^ Hm...not really. There was ...Thanks for reading ^-^ Hm...not really. There was a time when English scanlations come out first. <br /><br />=)<br /><br />Indeed. That's right, but I would think that perhaps, Saena is one of those people who'll think of things negatively hence her reaction and perception towards Kyouko. Hopefully so since Kyouko is currently moving on from what had happened to her. She have a more positive view. Can we say that Lory's 'love me' project did help her? ^^<br /><br />Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-4616700006165214282016-01-26T17:37:41.263+08:002016-01-26T17:37:41.263+08:00Yup, farhana...hopefully so. If there are unnecess...Yup, farhana...hopefully so. If there are unnecessary stuff...ah, it will be a long wait for that to happen. <br /><br />Well, hopefully the mangaka pulls it off without any typical cliche ^^<br /><br />Hm..if you think everything can be wrapped up in 2-3 arcs. I observed that an arc usually takes a year. Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05625412560484783992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-1937889753180303752016-01-25T22:54:37.586+08:002016-01-25T22:54:37.586+08:00Wow that's an interesting idea, about Reino te...Wow that's an interesting idea, about Reino telling Kyoko. It somehow appeals more to me than Ren telling her himself. :Ofarhanahttp://yetanotherscene.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-61183851000104056832016-01-25T22:47:24.635+08:002016-01-25T22:47:24.635+08:00I'm so happy this arc is ending (or ended). I ...I'm so happy this arc is ending (or ended). I just hope the next arc focuses more on Ren and Kyoko's relationship. I hope Kanae finds out Ren's feelings for her and encourages him to go after her. Because from what I remember Shou's deal with Kyoko was for her not to fall in love with him and not the other way around. I'm still hooked with the idea that Reino will be the one to tell her about his past simply because he is the only one that has been honest to her since the first time they met. However, I have no idea how this manga will end. The mangaka always surprises us. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14904906639604177056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-91877330836558436192016-01-25T21:28:42.996+08:002016-01-25T21:28:42.996+08:00Kat, thank you very much for your comments, I beli...Kat, thank you very much for your comments, I believe this is the first time the English scanlation is out first but nonetheless as soon as I read it I started revisiting your site to know what you are thinking about this development. :) I have been following your blog for a few years now and it seems I got so accustomed to comparing my own thoughts to yours that the order became irrelevant. So once more - thanks for sharing. :)<br /><br />This is my first comment, btw, the empty field felt this much tempting this time that I could not resist. :P<br /><br />And as for the chapter itself I have two main thoughts after reading it. First - it is amazing how far Kyouko has gone from this insecure and easily getting depressed girl we met, well, 14 years ago... -_-; She took all the news so calmly. No judging, no grudge, just attempt to understand although it was her mother that was her very first source of pain. Just - wow. Tell me about maturing... And second thought - it feels so unfair that in fact Saena's treating Kyouko as she did was a result of merely her projecting of all the bad feelings against herself upon Kyouko. As if her daughter was not a human being but a tool to clean herself from all unbearable emotions, the guilt and the shame. This is exactly an opposite attitude to facing problems than Kyouko is presenting right now - immature and completely selfish. I understand the depression. The thoughts about abortion, even attempted suicide. But I just can't understand that during the time Saena had the opportunity to see Kyouko as separate being, a child full of promises, a child so sweet, honest and so easy to love, a chance to reconcile with her difficult past and start anew, and yet she did not attempt this even once. All she saw during all those years was a projection of her own failure. For me, this is much greater failure on her part - as a human being, not merely a lawyer. She might have moved forward with her life understood as professional life, but otherwise she still hasn't freed herself from what happened with Misonoi. And hasn't actually faced her mistakes in any other way that escaping them and their results. Is this Kyouko's role to make her see that? We'll see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5891049529945268328.post-81104481839086968492016-01-25T21:26:54.593+08:002016-01-25T21:26:54.593+08:00FINALLY. I think this is going to mark the end of ...FINALLY. I think this is going to mark the end of the major arcs in the series and the only thing that's stopping Ren and Kyoko is each other. Once Kyoko finds out who Ren is (KUONNNNNN/CORN), they will hopefully accept each other without all unnecessary bs because I waited 9 years for this. Hhahahah. I'm worried that the moment when they get together won't meet my expectations because I think as fans, we've invested alot into the development of their relationship and a mere cliché will not do it for me. Also, with Saena's chapter somewhat coming to an end, I foresee Skip Beat coming to an end in the next 2-3 years with no more huge arcs to work with. I don't want it to end because it's been such a big chapter of my life but at the same time, I really want to see a blissful ending. AHHH ALL THE FEELS farhanahttp://yetanotherscene.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com